>>> > > > DR. ROBERT REDFIELD, A FORMER CDC DIRECTOR, IS SPEAKING UP FOR THE FIRST TIME EXPRESSION PUBLICLY WHERE HE THINKS THE CORONAVIRUS THAT CAUSED THE PANDEMIC CAME FROM. THESE EXTRAORDINARY REMARKS CAN BE FOUND IN A CNN DOCUDRAMA BROADCASTING THIS WEEKEND BREAK. DR. SANJAY GUPTA SIGNS UP WITH United States NOW. DR. REDFIELD SAYS HE'' S PROVIDING HIS OPINION, BUT I ASSUME YOU ' RE READY TO BREAK SOME QUITE SIGNIFICANT INFORMATION HERE >>. > > YEAH, THIS WAS EXTRAORDINARY, JOHN. FOR SURE. HE IS THE FORMER CDC SUPERVISOR. HE INVESTED HIS ENTIRE CAREER AS A VIROLOGIST. I INTERVIEWED ALL 6 OF THESE DOCTORS IN THE TYPES OF AN POSTMORTEM EXAMINATION. REALLY TO METICULOUSLY DISSECT EXACTLY WHAT TOOK PLACE BELOW. REALLY NO PREAGENDA. DR. REDFIELD WHEN WE SAT TO TALK, HE DESIRED TO BEGINNING AT THE START. THE BEGINNINGS OF THIS INFECTION. WHAT HE BELIEVED IN FACT TRANSPIRED. TAKE A LISTEN. >> > > IF I WAS TO ASSUMPTION, THIS INFECTION BEGAN TRANSMITTING SOMEPLACE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER IN WUHAN.
>> > > SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER >>? > > THAT ' S MY OWN SIGHT. IT ' S ONLY AN OPINION. I'' M PERMITTED TO HAVE POINT OF VIEWS CURRENTLY. I'' M OF THE POINT OF SIGHT THAT I STILL ASSUME THE A LOT OF MOST LIKELY IDOLOGY OF THIS PATHOLOGY IN WUHAN WAS FROM A LAB. RUN AWAY. OTHER INDIVIDUAL DON'' T BELIEVE THAT. THAT ' S FINE. SCIENCE WILL CERTAINLY AT SOME POINT FIGURE IT OUT. IT'' S NOT UNCOMMON FOR RESPIRATORY MICROORGANISMS THAT ARE BEING DEALT WITH IN A RESEARCH LABORATORY TO CONTAMINATE THE RESEARCH LABORATORY WORKER. >> > >'IT ' S LIKEWISE NOT UNCOMMON FOR THAT TYPE OF STUDY TO BE OCCURRING IN WUHAN.THE CITY IS
A WELL-KNOWN CENTER FOR VIRAL RESEARCHES IN CHINA, INCLUDING THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY EXPLORED EXTENSIVELY WITH BAT CORONAVIRUSES. >> > >'IT ' S An AMAZING DISCUSSION. I SEEM LIKE WE ' RE HAVING BELOW. DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE THE FORMER CDC SUPERVISOR, AND YOU WERE THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME THIS WAS ALL HAPPENING. >> > > FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, THE FORMER CDC DIRECTOR IS MENTIONING OPENLY THAT HE THINKS THIS PANDEMIC STARTED MONTHS EARLIER THAN WE KNEW. AND THAT IT CAME FROM, NOT AT A DAMP MARKET, BUT INSIDE A LABORATORY IN CHINA. >> > > THESE ARE TWO SIGNIFICANT POINTS TO SAY.
>> > > THAT ' S NOT INDICATING ANY INTENTIONALITY. IT'' S MY POINT OF VIEW, RIGHT? BUT I AM A VIROLOGIST. I HAVE SPENT MY LIFE IN VIROLOGY. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS SOMEHOW CAME FROM A BAT TO A HUMAN AS WELL AS AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME, THE INFECTIONS PERTAINED TO THE HUMAN BEING, ENDED UP BEING ONE OF ONE OF THE MOST INFECTIOUS VIRUSES THAT WE UNDERSTAND IN HUMANITY FOR HUMAN-TO-HUMAN TRANSMISSION. NORMALLY IT TAKES AWHILE FOR IT TO FIND OUT HOW TO COME TO BE INCREASINGLY MORE RELIABLE IN PERSON TO HUMAN BEING TRANSMISSION. I SIMPLY WEAR'' T THINK THIS MAKES ORGANIC SENSE. >> > > SO IN THE LAB, DO YOU ASSUME THAT PROCEDURES OF BECOMING EVEN MORE RELIABLE WAS OCCURRING? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING? >> > > LET ' S JUST SAY, I HAVE CORONAVIRUS AND I'' M FUNCTIONING ON IT. A LOT OF OF US IN THE LAB ARE TRYING TO GROW INFECTION. WE TRY TO MAKE IT GROW BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER AND ALSO BETTER SO WE CONTAINER DO EXPERIMENTS AND ALSO FIGURE BOUGHT IT. THAT'' S THE METHOD I PUT IT WITH EACH OTHER. >> > >'IT ' S A PRETTY AMAZING CONVERSATION.AND A LITTLE LOOK OF WHAT WE REVEALED KIND OF WITHIN THESE PAIR OF HOURS. I NEED TO MENTION, THE WORLD HEALTH COMPANY CALLS THE LAB LEAKAGE THEORY UNLIKELY. AND CHINESE AUTHORITIES HAVE STARTED INCREASINGLY INDICATING A SEVERAL BEGINNING THEORY SAYING THAT THIS PANDEMIC MAY HAVE STARTED IN MULTIPLE PLACES, EVEN AROUND THE GLOBE, INCLUDING UNITED STATE ARMED FORCE LABORATORIES. THAT ' S UNSUBSTANTIATED, BUT THAT ' S TYPE OF'THE TO AND FRO TAKING PLACE NOW. WE STILL DON ' T KNOW, A YEAR LATER, EXACTLY HOW THIS PANDEMIC STARTED. > > HE ' S THE FORMER CDC DIRECTOR. SO WHEN HE SAYS IT ' S SIMPLY HIS VIEWPOINT, IT ' S NOT SIMPLY AN OPINION.THE FORMER CDC DIRECTOR SEES THINGS AND ALSO KNOWS THINGS THE REMAINDER OF United States DON ' T SEE– > > LIFE LONG EXPERIENCE. > > WHEN HE WAS IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT SEEING THINGS >> THAT THE REST PEOPLE AREN >> ' T ENTITLED TO. HOW MUCH OF SIMPLY AN OPINION CONTAINER IT BE? > > THAT ' S EXACTLY RIGHT. HE ' S SPEAKING TO INDIVIDUALS ON THE GROUND, NOT JUST AS EQUIVALENTS OF THE CHINA CDC, BUT WE HAVE INVESTIGATORS ON THE GROUND IN VARIOUS COUNTRIES AROUND THE GLOBE, INCLUDING CHINA. IF YOU LOOK ALSO AT OUR PREPAREDNESS AND ALSO ACTION KIND OF STRATEGIES IN THE UNITED STATES, IT ' S MEDICAL AND ALSO PUBLIC WELLNESS. BUT IT ' S ALSO INTELLIGENCE CELEBRATION. SO WHEN WE ' RE TAKING A SEAT AND SPEAKING WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE, WE ' RE GRANTING A KIND OF OVERALL IMAGE, I ASSUME, FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME OF WHAT THEY KNEW, WHAT THEY RECOGNIZED AT WHAT TIME, AND ALSO HOW THEY WERE KIND OF PIECING THAT WITH EACH OTHER. SO IT ' S REALLY– AND IT ' S NOT JUST INTRIGUE.IT ' S ESSENTIAL TO KNOW HOW THIS STARTED IF YOU ARE GOING TO BEST GET READY FOR A POSSIBLE FUTURE PANDEMIC.
TO'GO AND ALSO– FROM AN ANIMAL TO A PERSON AS WELL AS SUDDENLY TURN INTO ONE OF THE THE MAJORITY OF CONTAGIOUS PATHOGENS WE ' VE EVER SEEN IN MANKIND SIMPLY DOESN ' T TAKE PLACE VERY OFTEN. THAT ' S THE POINT DR. REDFIELD WAS TRYING TO'MAKE. > > SANJAY GUPTA, MANY THANKS EXTREMELY MUCH.'WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT'. AND IT DOES SOUND LIKE SOMETHING WE >> REQUIREMENT TO TALK ABOUT EVEN MORE. LET ' S DO THAT TODAY, JOHN. LET ' S BRING IN CNN POLITICAL ANALYST JOSH ROGIN'. HE ' S DONE A WHOLE LOT OF COVERAGE ON THE BEGINNING OF COVID-19. THE WRITER OF “DISORDER UNDER PARADISE': AMERICA, CHINA AS WELL AS THE FIGHT FOR THE 21st CENTURY.” JOSH, YOU ' VE “DONE REPORTING ON THE BEGINNINGS. YOU– WE ' VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU.” INFORM United States THE'VALUE OF HEARING DR. REDFIELD, PREVIOUS DIRECTOR, SAY THIS. THAT ' S WHAT HE ASSUMES, IT CAME FROM A LAB. > > YOU RECOGNIZE, MY INITIAL RESPONSE, ALISYN, IS, WOW. >> SENSATIONAL. GROUND-BREAKING. REALLY NARRATIVE-CHANGING CONVERSATION THAT SANJAY GUPTA HAD WITH ROBERT REDFIELD FOR A PAIR OF CRUCIAL REASONS. ONE IS AS YOU DISCUSSED, HE IS NONE SCHMO– JOE-SCHMO SCIENTIST. HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE CDC, A VIROLOGIST AND ALSO HE ' S MAKING TWO REALLY STUNNING ALLEGATIONS. ONE IS THAT THE INFECTION STARTED IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER, ACCORDING TO HIS VIEWPOINT, WHICH IMPLIES THAT THE CHINESE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HID IT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. AND 2, THAT HE THINKS NOT SIMPLY BASED ON, YOU UNDERSTAND, SUPPOSITION BUT BASED ON THE METHOD THE INFECTION ARISED, IN HIS SPECIALIST EVALUATIONS OF THE WAY IT ACTED, THAT IT WAS TOO STRONG AND ALSO TOO PROGRESSED TO HAVE ORIGINATE FROM NATURE. AS WELL AS HE ' S REFERRING TO THE RESEARCH AT THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY.NOW THAT MATCHES THE INFO THAT CAME OUT OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AS WELL AS WAS CONFIRMED BY THE BIDEN MANAGEMENT TO SOME LEVEL WHEN THEY CAN BE FOUND IN AND ALSO CHECKED THE UNITED STATE KNOWLEDGE WORK. SO IT ' S NOT SIMPLY ROBERT REDFIELD ' S VIEWPOINT. THERE'' S An EXPANDING BODY OF EVIDENCE THAT THINGS TO THIS LAB CRASH THEORY. WHILE WE DON ' T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, WE CAN ' T SAY WE UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED, THIS MAKES IT REALLY, EXTREMELY CRUCIAL THAT THERE ' S MORE EXAMINATION WHICH WE REGARD THE CONTINUOUS INVESTIGATION, HONESTLY, BY THE W.H.O. AS WELL AS CHINESE SCIENTISTS AS NOT COMPLETION OF THE INQUIRY HERE DUE TO THE FACT THAT, AS YOU KEPT IN MIND, THEY ARE POO-POOING THIS THEORY AGAIN. > > REDFIELD CLAIMS IT ' S JUST HIS POINT OF VIEW >>, BUT HE ' S NOT JUST ANY MAN OR ANY JOE-SCHMO AS YOU SAID.DON ' T WE DEMAND TO SEE THE PROOF, HOW THIS POINT OF VIEW OF
HIS'AND AFTER THAT THE DECLARES MADE BY THE TRUMP MANAGEMENTS AS WELL AS VERIFIED TO AN EXTENT BY THE BIDEN MANAGEMENT, WE DEMAND TO SEE THE PROOF OF ALL OF THIS. > > WE DEMAND TO SEE THE EVIDENCE ON THE CHINESE SIDE AND ALSO UNITED STATE SIDE. ROBERT REDFIELD, WHEN HE WAS CDC DIRECTOR, HE WAS NOT A– DEAL WITH LEAD BY THE TRUMP MANAGEMENT. HE HAS NO REWARD, NO INSPIRATION TO BAIL THEM OUT OR TO SUPPORT THEIR THEORY FOR THEIR BENEFIT. HE ' S DOING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HE REALLY THINKS, AS WELL AS IT ' S BASED ON WHAT HE SAW WHEN HE WAS INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT.'SO THE EASIEST POINT TO DO IS FOR THE BIDEN MANAGEMENT IS TO LAUNCH OPENLY THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE BUT THE ONLY REAL MEANS TO CRACK THIS IS FOR THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT TO TURN OVER THE INFORMATION OF THE EARLY INSTANCES, ALL OF THINGS THAT WERE IN THE LAB.WHAT THEY SAY IS, OH, THE LABORATORY DIDN ' T HAVE THE INFECTION, TO MAKE SURE THAT ' S THAT
. BUT WHAT ROBERT REDFIELD IS PHRASE IS'WE CAN ' T TAKE THAT AT STATED VALUE. WE ' LL NEED AN'INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, BUT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION COULD ALSO BE MORE CLEAR TOO. > > EVEN IF THERE ' S AN INDEPENDENT EXAMINATION, WOULD CHINA TEND TO HAND OVER WHATEVER PAPERWORK THEY HAVE ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE LABORATORY? PRIMARY. AS WELL AS NUMBER TWO, WHY DOESN ' T THE W.H.O. SEEM TO BE ON THE SAME WEB PAGE WITH DR. REDFIELD?'> > RIGHT. WELL, IN YOUR FIRST CONCERN, THE CHINESE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS HAD> OVER A YEAR TO TURN OVER THE DATA, AS WELL AS THEY ' VE DONE QUITE THE OPPOSITE.THEY ' VE HIT THE DAY. THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS THEY'' VE MANIPULATED THE DATA.
THEY'JAILED THE JOURNALISTS, SILENCED THE SCIENTISTS. THAT ' S A PATTERN OF OBFUSCATION AND ALSO WHITEWASH VIRTUALLY UNDENIAL AT'THIS FACTOR. THAT ' S A TROUBLE THAT I WEAR ' T THINK THAT WE ' RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE. WHICH ' S UNFORTUNATE. AND THE W.H.O.TEAM, WHICH I ' M SURE HAS LOTS OF A GREAT DEAL OF WELL-MEANING INDIVIDUALS, SIMPLY DOESN '
T HAVE THE ACCESS THAT THEY NEED. SEVERAL OF THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE W.H.O. INVESTIGATIVE TEAM HAVE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. AND ALSO THEIR STATEMENTS SO FAR SHOW THEY ' RE NOT REALLY LOOKING INTO THE LAB MISHAP THEORY AT ALL DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY'DON ' T BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE. THEY DON ' T WANT IT TO BE TRUE. WE SHOULDN ' T NEGLECT THE W.H.O. EXAMINATION, BUT IT ' S NOT GOING TO BE THE END ALL, BE ALL OF WHAT WE UNDERSTAND. IT SIMPLY CAN ' T BE. AS YOU HEARD, THE HEAD OF THE CDC WHILE OF THE BREAK OUT SAYS THE W.H.O. EXAMINATION IS ON THE INCORRECT TRACK. > > JOSH ROGIN, SO GOOD TO OBTAIN YOUR REPORTING AS WELL AS PROFICIENCY INTO THIS. > > CONTAINER ' T DELAY FOR THE SPECIAL.
>> > > IT ' S GOING TO >> BE'– DON'' T MISS THIS UNPRECEDENTED EVENT WITH DR. SANJAY GUPTA WHEN THE MEDICAL LEADERS OF THE BATTLE ON COVID BREAK THEIR SILENCE. ENJOY THE CNN SPECIAL “” COVID WAR: THE.
