>>> > > > DR. ROBERT REDFIELD, A FORMER CDC DIRECTOR, IS SPEAKING OUT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME EXPRESSION PUBLICLY WHERE HE THINKS THE CORONAVIRUS THAT TRIGGERED THE PANDEMIC CAME FROM. THESE EXTRAORDINARY REMARKS ARE AVAILABLE IN A CNN DOCUMENTARY AIRING THIS WEEKEND. DR. SANJAY GUPTA JOINS United States NOW. DR. REDFIELD STATES HE'' S GRANTING HIS OPINION, BUT I ASSUME YOU ' RE ABOUT TO BREAK SOME QUITE CONSIDERABLE NEWS HERE >>. > > YEAH, THIS WAS EXTRAORDINARY, JOHN. FOR CERTAIN. HE IS THE PREVIOUS CDC DIRECTOR. HE SPENT HIS ENTIRE JOB AS A VIROLOGIST. I SPOKE WITH ALL 6 OF THESE DOCTORS IN THE TYPES OF AN AUTOPSY. REALLY TO METICULOUSLY DISSECT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED BELOW. REALLY NO PREAGENDA. DR. REDFIELD WHEN WE SAT DOWN TO TALK, HE WISHED TO START AT THE START. THE ORIGINS OF THIS INFECTION. WHAT HE BELIEVED IN FACT TAKEN PLACE. TAKE A LISTEN. >> > > IF I WAS TO HUNCH, THIS INFECTION STARTED SENDING SOMEWHERE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER IN WUHAN. >> > > SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER >>? > > THAT ' S MY OWN VIEW. IT ' S ONLY AN VIEWPOINT. I'' M ALLOWED TO HAVE POINT OF VIEWS NOW. I'' M OF THE POINT OF VIEW THAT I STILL BELIEVE ONE OF THE MOST MOST LIKELY IDOLOGY OF THIS PATHOLOGY IN WUHAN WAS FROM A LABORATORY.ESCAPED.
VARIOUS OTHER PEOPLE DON'' T BELIEVE THAT. THAT ' S PENALTY. SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH WILL EVENTUALLY FIGURE IT OUT. IT'' S NOT UNUSUAL FOR RESPIRATORY VIRUS THAT ARE BEING WORKED WITH IN A RESEARCH LABORATORY TO INFECT THE LAB WORKER. >> > >'IT ' S ADDITIONALLY NOT UNUSUAL FOR THAT KIND OF RESEARCH STUDY TO BE OCCURRING IN WUHAN. THE CITY IS An EXTENSIVELY WELL-KNOWN FACILITY FOR VIRAL STUDIES IN CHINA, INCLUDING THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY, WHICH HAS EXPLORED EXTENSIVELY WITH BAT CORONAVIRUSES. >> > >'IT ' S A REMARKABLE DISCUSSION. I FEEL LIKE WE ' RE HAVING BELOW. SINCE YOU ARE THE FORMER CDC SUPERVISOR, AND YOU WERE THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME THIS WAS ALL HAPPENING. >> > > FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE PREVIOUS CDC DIRECTOR IS SPECIFYING OPENLY THAT HE THINKS THIS PANDEMIC BEGAN MONTHS EARLIER THAN WE KNEW. AND ALSO THAT IT ORIGINATED, NOT AT A WET MARKET, BUT INSIDE A LAB IN CHINA. >> > > THESE ARE TWO CONSIDERABLE POINTS TO SAY. >> > > THAT ' S NOT IMPLYING ANY INTENTIONALITY. IT'' S MY VIEWPOINT, RIGHT? BUT I AM A VIROLOGIST.I HAVE SPENT MY
LIFE IN VIROLOGY. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS SOMEHOW ORIGINATED FROM A BAT TO A HUMAN BEING AND THEN IN TIME, THE VIRUS CAME TO THE HUMAN BEING, TURNED INTO ONE OF THE MANY INFECTIOUS INFECTIONS THAT WE KNOW IN MANKIND FOR HUMAN-TO-HUMAN TRANSMISSION. NORMALLY IT TAKES SOME TIME FOR IT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BECOME A GROWING NUMBER OF EFFECTIVE IN PERSON TO HUMAN TRANSMISSION. I JUST PUT ON'' T THINK THIS MAKES BIOLOGICAL SENSE. >> > > SO IN THE LAB, DO YOU THINK THAT PROCEDURES OF BECOMING EVEN MORE EFFICIENT WAS HAPPENING? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING? >> > > LET ' S SIMPLY SAY, I HAVE CORONAVIRUS AS WELL AS I'' M WORKING WITH IT. MANY OF United States IN THE LAB ARE TRYING TO GROW INFECTION. WE TRY TO MAKE IT GROW BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER AND ALSO MUCH BETTER SO WE CANISTER DO EXPERIMENTS AS WELL AS FIGURE BOUGHT IT. THAT'' S THE WAY I PLACE IT TOGETHER. >> > >'IT ' S A PRETTY PHENOMENAL DISCUSSION. AND A LITTLE GLIMPSE OF WHAT WE REVEALED TYPE OF WITHIN THESE NUMBER OF HOURS. I OUGHT TO POINT OUT, THE WORLD WELLNESS COMPANY CALLS THE LABORATORY LEAKAGE CONCEPT UNLIKELY.AND CHINESE OFFICIALS HAVE STARTED SIGNIFICANTLY POINTING TO A NUMEROUS ORIGIN THEORY CLAIMING THAT THIS PANDEMIC MAY HAVE BEGAN IN MULTIPLE PLACES, EVEN AROUND THE WORLD, INCLUDING UNITED STATE ARMED FORCE LABORATORIES. THAT ' S UNSUBSTANTIATED, BUT THAT'' S TYPE OF THE BACK AND FORTH TAKING PLACE TODAY. WE STILL DON'' T KNOW, A YEAR LATER, EXACTLY HOW THIS PANDEMIC BEGAN>. >'> HE ' S THE FORMER CDC DIRECTOR. SO WHEN HE'SAYS IT ' S JUST HIS VIEWPOINT, IT ' S NOT SIMPLY AN POINT OF VIEW. THE FORMER CDC SUPERVISOR SEES POINTS AND KNOWS THINGS THE REST PEOPLE DON ' T >> SEE– > > LIFE LONG EXPERIENCE. >> > > WHEN HE REMAINED IN THE U.S. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SEEING POINTS THAT THE REMAINDER PEOPLE AREN'' T ENTITLED TO. JUST HOW MUCH OF SIMPLY AN OPINION CAN IT BE? >> > > THAT ' S EXACTLY RIGHT. HE'' S TALKING WITH INDIVIDUALS ON THE GROUND, NOT EQUALLY AS EQUIVALENTS OF THE CHINA CDC, BUT WE HAVE INVESTIGATORS ON THE GROUND IN VARIOUS COUNTRIES AROUND THE GLOBE, INCLUDING CHINA.IF YOU LOOK EVEN AT OUR READINESS AS WELL AS RESPONSE TYPE OF STRATEGIES IN THE UNITED STATES, IT ' S MEDICAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH. BUT IT ' S ALSO INTELLIGENCE CELEBRATION. SO WHEN WE ' RE TAKING A SEAT AND ALSO CHATTING'TO ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS, WE ' RE OFFERING A KIND OF OVERALL PICTURE, I BELIEVE, FOR THE FIRST TIME OF WHAT THEY KNEW, WHAT THEY KNEW AT WHAT TIME, AS WELL AS HOW THEY WERE TYPE OF PIECING THAT TOGETHER. SO IT ' S REALLY– AND ALSO IT'' S NOT JUST INTRIGUE. IT'' S ESSENTIAL TO KNOW HOW THIS STARTED IF YOU ARE GOING TO BEST PREPARE FOR A FEASIBLE FUTURE PANDEMIC. TO GO AND ALSO– FROM AN ANIMAL TO A PERSON AS WELL AS SUDDENLY END UP BEING ONE OF ONE OF THE MOST INFECTIOUS VIRUS WE'' VE EVER SEEN IN HUMANKIND SIMPLY DOESN'' T HAPPEN REALLY TYPICALLY. THAT ' S THE POINT DR. REDFIELD WAS TRYING TO MAKE. >> > > SANJAY GUPTA, MANY THANKS QUITE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.AND IT DOES SOUND LIKE SOMETHING WE REQUIREMENT TO GO OVER EVEN MORE. LET ' S DO THAT TODAY', JOHN. ALLOW ' S BRING IN CNN POLITICAL ANALYST JOSH ROGIN. HE ' S DONE A WHOLE LOT OF REPORTING ON THE ORIGIN OF COVID-19. THE WRITER OF “CHAOS UNDER HEAVEN: AMERICA “, CHINA AND THE BATTLE FOR THE 21st CENTURY.” JOSH, YOU ' VE DONE COVERAGE ON THE BEGINNINGS. YOU'– WE ' VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU. TELL United States THE SIGNIFICANCE OF HEARING DR. REDFIELD, PREVIOUS SUPERVISOR, SAY THIS. THAT ' S WHAT HE THINKS, IT ORIGINATED FROM A LABORATORY. > > YOU RECOGNIZE, MY INITIAL REACTION, >> ALISYN, IS, WOW. SENSATIONAL. GROUND-BREAKING. REALLY NARRATIVE-CHANGING DISCUSSION THAT SANJAY GUPTA HAD WITH ROBERT REDFIELD FOR A PAIR OF ESSENTIAL FACTORS. ONE IS AS YOU POINTED OUT, HE IS NONE SCHMO– JOE-SCHMO SCIENTIST. HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE CDC, A VIROLOGIST AND ALSO HE ' S MAKING 2 REALLY SURPRISING ACCUSATIONS. ONE IS THAT THE VIRUS STARTED IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER, AS REPORTED BY HIS OPINION, WHICH IMPLIES THAT THE CHINESE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONCEALED IT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. AND ALSO 2, THAT HE THINKS NOT JUST BASED ON, YOU UNDERSTAND, SUPPOSITION BUT BASED ON THE METHOD THE VIRUS EMERGED, IN HIS PROFESSIONAL EVALUATIONS OF THE MEANS IT ACTED, THAT IT WAS ALSO STRONG AS WELL AS TOO ADVANCED TO HAVE COME FROM NATURE.AND HE ' S REFERRING TO THE RESEARCH AT THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY. SINCE MATCHES THE INFORMATION THAT APPEARED OF THE TRUMP MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS WAS VERIFIED BY THE BIDEN MANAGEMENT TO SOME EXTENT WHEN THEY WAS AVAILABLE IN AND INSPECTED THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE FUNCTION. SO IT ' S NOT SIMPLY ROBERT REDFIELD ' S VIEWPOINT. THERE'' S A GROWING BODY OF EVIDENCE THAT DETAILS TO THIS LAB CRASH THEORY. WHILE WE DON ' T KNOW WHAT OCCURRED, WE CAN ' T SAY WE KNOW WHAT TOOK PLACE, THIS MAKES IT EXTREMELY, REALLY CRUCIAL THAT THERE ' S EVEN MORE INVESTIGATION AS WELL AS THAT WE RESPECT THE ONGOING INVESTIGATION, HONESTLY, BY THE W.H.O.AND CHINESE RESEARCHERS AS NOT THE END OF THE QUESTIONS BELOW SINCE, AS YOU KEPT IN MIND, THEY ARE POO-POOING THIS THEORY ONCE AGAIN. > > REDFIELD STATES IT ' S SIMPLY HIS OPINION >>, BUT HE ' S NOT SIMPLY ANY GUY OR ANY JOE-SCHMO AS YOU STATED. DON ' T WE DEMAND TO SEE THE EVIDENCE, HOW THIS OPINION OF HIS AND AFTERWARDS THE ASSERTS MADE BY THE TRUMP MANAGEMENTS AS WELL AS VERIFIED TO AN EXTENT BY THE BIDEN MANAGEMENT, WE REQUIREMENT TO SEE THE PROOF OF ALL OF THIS. > > WE NEED TO SEE THE EVIDENCE ON THE CHINESE SIDE AS WELL AS U.S. SIDE. ROBERT REDFIELD, WHEN HE WAS CDC SUPERVISOR, HE WAS NOT A– DEAL WITH LEAD BY THE TRUMP MANAGEMENT. HE HAS NO MOTIVATION, NO INSPIRATION TO BOND THEM OUT OR TO ASSISTANCE THEIR THEORY FOR THEIR SAKE. HE ' S DOING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HE TRULY THINKS, AND ALSO IT ' S BASED ON'WHAT HE SAW WHEN HE WAS INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT. SO THE MOST CONVENIENT THING TO PERFORM'IS FOR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS TO RELEASE OPENLY THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE BUT THE ONLY REAL METHOD TO FRACTURE THIS IS FOR THE CHINESE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TURN OVER THE INFORMATION OF THE EARLY INSTANCES, EVERY ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WERE IN THE LAB. WHAT THEY SAY IS, OH, THE LAB DIDN ' T HAVE THE INFECTION, TO ENSURE THAT ' S THAT. BUT WHAT ROBERT REDFIELD IS PHRASE IS'WE CONTAINER ' T TAKE THAT AT FACE VALUE. WE ' LL NEED AN'INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, BUT THE BIDEN MANAGEMENT COULD ALSO BE MORE CLEAR AS WELL. > > EVEN IF THERE ' S AN INDEPENDENT EXAMINATION, WOULD CHINA TEND TO TURN OVER WHATEVER DOCUMENTS THEY HAVE ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE LABORATORY? NUMBER ONE.AND SECOND, WHY DOESN ' T THE W.H.O. SEEM TO BE ON THE VERY SAME WEB PAGE WITH DR. REDFIELD? > > RIGHT'. WELL, IN YOUR FIRST INQUIRY, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT HAS HAD> OVER A YEAR TO HAND OVER THE INFORMATION, AS WELL AS THEY ' VE DONE QUITE THE OPPOSITE. THEY ' VE HIT THE DAY. THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS THEY'' VE MANIPULATED THE DATA. THEY'IMPRISONED THE REPORTERS, SILENCED THE RESEARCHERS. THAT ' S A PATTERN OF OBFUSCATION AND WHITEWASH QUITE MUCH UNDENIAL NOW. THAT'' S An ISSUE THAT I WEAR ' T THINK THAT WE ' RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX. WHICH ' S UNFORTUNATE. AS WELL AS THE W.H.O. TEAM, WHICH I'' M SURE CONTAINS A WHOLE LOT OF WELL-MEANING INDIVIDUALS, SIMPLY DOESN'' T HAVE THE ACCESSIBILITIES THAT THEY NEED. A FEW OF THE MEMBERS OF THE W.H.O. INVESTIGATIVE GROUP HAVE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. AND ALSO THEIR STATEMENTS UNTIL NOW REVEAL THEY'' RE NOT REALLY LOOKING RIGHT INTO THE LAB MISHAP CONCEPT IN ANY WAY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY DON'' T BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE. THEY DON'' T WANT IT TO BE TRUE. WE SHOULDN'' T DISREGARD THE W.H.O.
EXAMINATION, BUT IT'' S NOT GOING TO BE THE END ALL, BE ALL OF WHAT WE UNDERSTAND. IT SIMPLY TIN'' T BE. AS YOU LISTENED TO, THE HEAD OF THE CDC WHILE OF THE BREAK OUT STATES THE W.H.O. EXAMINATION IS ON THE WRONG TRACK. >> > > JOSH ROGIN, SO GOOD TO OBTAIN YOUR COVERAGE AS WELL AS COMPETENCE RIGHT INTO THIS. >> > > CANISTER'' T WAIT FOR THE SPECIAL. >> > > IT'' S GOING TO BE– DON'' T MISS THIS UNPRECEDENTED OCCASION WITH DR. SANJAY GUPTA WHEN THE MEDICAL LEADERS OF THE WAR ON COVID BREAK THEIR SILENCE. ENJOY THE CNN SPECIAL “” COVID WAR: THE.
