>>> > > > DR. ROBERT REDFIELD, A FORMER CDC SUPERVISOR, IS SPEAKING UP FOR THE FIRST TIME EXPRESSION PUBLICLY WHERE HE BELIEVES THE CORONAVIRUS THAT TRIGGERED THE PANDEMIC CAME FROM. THESE EXTRAORDINARY COMMENTS CAN BE FOUND IN A CNN DOCUDRAMA BROADCASTING THIS WEEKEND BREAK. DR. SANJAY GUPTA SIGNS UP WITH US NOW. DR. REDFIELD STATES HE'' S GIVING HIS VIEWPOINT, BUT I BELIEVE YOU ' RE ABOUT TO BREAK SOME QUITE SUBSTANTIAL NEWS BELOW >>. > > YEAH, THIS WAS EXTRAORDINARY, JOHN. FOR SURE. HE IS THE PREVIOUS CDC SUPERVISOR. HE SPENT HIS WHOLE PROFESSION AS A VIROLOGIST. I TALKED TO ALL 6 OF THESE DOCTORS IN THE KINDS OF AN AUTOPSY. REALLY TO METICULOUSLY DISSECT EXACTLY WHAT OCCURRED HERE. REALLY NO PREAGENDA. DR. REDFIELD WHEN WE SAT TO TALK, HE WISHED TO BEGINNING AT THE START. THE ORIGINS OF THIS INFECTION. WHAT HE BELIEVED REALLY TAKEN PLACE. TAKE A LISTEN. >> > > IF I WAS TO GUESS, THIS INFECTION BEGAN SENDING SOMEWHERE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER IN WUHAN. >> > > SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER >>? > > THAT ' S MY OWN VIEW. IT ' S ONLY AN OPINION. I'' M PERMITTED TO HAVE OPINIONS CURRENTLY. I'' M OF THE POINT OF SIGHT THAT I STILL ASSUME ONE OF THE MOST MOST LIKELY IDOLOGY OF THIS PATHOLOGY IN WUHAN WAS FROM A LABORATORY.ESCAPED.
OTHER INDIVIDUAL DON'' T BELIEVE THAT. THAT ' S FINE. SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH WILL CERTAINLY EVENTUALLY FIGURE IT OUT. IT'' S NOT UNCOMMON FOR RESPIRATORY MICROORGANISMS THAT ARE BEING WORKED WITH IN A LAB TO CONTAMINATE THE RESEARCH LABORATORY EMPLOYEE. >> > >'IT ' S ALSO NOT UNUSUAL FOR THAT TYPE OF RESEARCH STUDY TO BE OCCURRING IN WUHAN. THE CITY IS A WIDELY KNOWN CENTER FOR VIRAL RESEARCH STUDIES IN CHINA, INCLUDING THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY EXPLORED EXTENSIVELY WITH BAT CORONAVIRUSES. >> > >'IT ' S An IMPRESSIVE CONVERSATION. I SEEM LIKE WE ' RE HAVING HERE. DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU ARE THE PREVIOUS CDC DIRECTOR, AND ALSO YOU WERE THE SUPERVISOR AT THE TIME THIS WAS ALL HAPPENING. >> > > FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, THE FORMER CDC DIRECTOR IS SPECIFYING PUBLICLY THAT HE BELIEVES THIS PANDEMIC BEGAN MONTHS EARLIER THAN WE KNEW.AND THAT IT CAME FROM, NOT AT A WET MARKET, BUT INSIDE A LAB IN CHINA. >> > > THESE ARE TWO CONSIDERABLE POINTS TO SAY. >> > > THAT ' S NOT IMPLYING ANY INTENTIONALITY. IT'' S MY POINT OF VIEW, RIGHT? BUT I AM A VIROLOGIST. I HAVE USED MY LIFE IN VIROLOGY. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS SOMEHOW CAME FROM A BAT TO A HUMAN BEING AS WELL AS THEN IN TIME, THE INFECTIONS INVOLVED THE HUMAN BEING, TURNED INTO ONE OF THE MANY INFECTIOUS VIRUSES THAT WE UNDERSTAND IN HUMANKIND FOR HUMAN-TO-HUMAN TRANSMISSION. NORMALLY IT TAKES SOME TIME FOR IT TO FIND OUT HOW TO COME TO BE AN INCREASING NUMBER OF RELIABLE IN HUMAN BEING TO HUMAN BEING TRANSMISSION. I JUST WEAR'' T THINK THIS MAKES BIOLOGICAL FEELING. >> > > SO IN THE LABORATORY, DO YOU THINK THAT PROCEDURES OF BECOMING EVEN MORE EFFICIENT WAS TAKING PLACE? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING? >> > > LET ' S SIMPLY SAY, I HAVE CORONAVIRUS AND ALSO I'' M WORKING WITH IT.MOST OF US IN THE LABORATORY ARE TRYING TO GROW INFECTION. WE SHOT TO MAKE IT EXPAND BETTER AS WELL AS BETTER AND BETTER AND ALSO FAR BETTER SO WE CONTAINER DO EXPERIMENTS AND ALSO FIGURE BOUGHT IT. THAT'' S THE METHOD I PUT IT WITH EACH OTHER. >> > >'IT ' S A RATHER EXTRAORDINARY CONVERSATION. AS WELL AS A LITTLE GLIMPSE OF WHAT WE REVEALED KIND OF WITHIN THESE PAIR OF HOURS. I MUST EXPLAIN, THE GLOBE HEALTH ORGANIZATION CALLS THE LABORATORY LEAKAGE THEORY UNLIKELY. AND CHINESE AUTHORITIES HAVE BEGAN SIGNIFICANTLY POINTING TO A SEVERAL BEGINNING CONCEPT SAYING THAT THIS PANDEMIC MIGHT HAVE BEGAN IN MULTIPLE PLACES, EVEN WORLDWIDE, INCLUDING U.S.MILITARY LABS
. THAT'' S UNSUBSTANTIATED, BUT THAT'' S TYPE OF THE TO AND FRO OCCURRING TODAY. WE STILL DON'' T KNOW, A YEAR LATER, EXACTLY HOW THIS PANDEMIC BEGAN>. >'> HE ' S THE PREVIOUS CDC DIRECTOR. SO WHEN HE'CLAIMS IT ' S JUST HIS OPINION, IT ' S NOT JUST AN VIEWPOINT. THE PREVIOUS CDC SUPERVISOR SEES POINTS AND ALSO KNOWS THINGS THE REMAINDER PEOPLE DON ' T >> SEE– > > LIFE LONG EXPERTISE.
>> > > WHEN HE REMAINED IN THE U.S. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SEEING THINGS THAT THE REMAINDER OF US AREN'' T ENTITLED TO. HOW MUCH OF JUST AN POINT OF VIEW CONTAINER IT BE? >> > > THAT ' S EXACTLY RIGHT. HE'' S SPEAKING TO INDIVIDUALS ON THE GROUND, NOT EQUALLY AS COUNTERPARTS OF THE CHINA CDC, BUT WE HAVE INVESTIGATORS ON THE GROUND IN VARIOUS COUNTRIES WORLDWIDE, INCLUDING CHINA. IF YOU LOOK EVEN AT OUR PREPAREDNESS AS WELL AS FEEDBACK TYPE OF STRATEGIES IN THE UNITED STATES, IT'' S MEDICAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELLNESS. BUT IT'' S ALSO KNOWLEDGE GATHERING.SO WHEN WE '
RE RESTING DOWN AND ALSO TALKING WITH ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS, WE'' RE OFFERING A TYPE OF OVERALL PICTURE, I THINK, FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME OF WHAT THEY RECOGNIZED, WHAT THEY RECOGNIZED AT WHAT TIME, AND HOW THEY WERE TYPE OF PIECING THAT TOGETHER. SO IT'' S REALLY– AND ALSO IT ' S NOT JUST INTRIGUE. IT'' S ESSENTIAL TO KNOW HOW THIS BEGAN IF YOU ARE GOING TO BEST PREPARE FOR A POSSIBLE FUTURE PANDEMIC. TO GO AND– FROM AN ANIMAL TO A HUMAN AND SUDDENLY BECOME ONE OF THE THE MAJORITY OF INFECTIOUS PATHOGENS WE'' VE EVER SEEN IN MANKIND SIMPLY DOESN'' T TAKE PLACE VERY TYPICALLY. THAT ' S THE POINT DR. REDFIELD WAS TRYING TO MAKE. >> > > SANJAY GUPTA, MANY THANKS EXTREMELY MUCH.WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AS WELL AS IT DOES SEEM LIKE SOMETHING WE DEMAND TO GO OVER MORE. ALLOW ' S DO THAT RIGHT NOW', JOHN. ALLOW ' S BRING IN CNN POLITICAL ANALYST JOSH ROGIN. HE ' S DONE A GREAT DEAL OF COVERAGE ON THE ORIGIN OF COVID-19. THE WRITER OF “TURMOIL UNDER PARADISE: AMERICA “, CHINA AND THE BATTLE FOR THE 21st CENTURY.” JOSH, YOU ' VE DONE COVERAGE ON THE ORIGINS. YOU'– WE ' VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU. TELL United States THE VALUE OF HEARING DR.REDFIELD, PREVIOUS DIRECTOR, SAY THIS. THAT ' S WHAT HE THINKS, IT ORIGINATED FROM A LABORATORY. > > YOU KNOW, MY INITIAL RESPONSE, ALISYN, IS, WOW. >> SPECTACULAR. GROUND-BREAKING. REALLY NARRATIVE-CHANGING DISCUSSION THAT SANJAY GUPTA HAD WITH ROBERT REDFIELD FOR A PAIR OF IMPORTANT REASONS. ONE IS AS YOU MENTIONED, HE IS NONE SCHMO– JOE-SCHMO SCIENTIST. HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE CDC, A VIROLOGIST AS WELL AS HE ' S MAKING TWO EXTREMELY SURPRISING ACCUSATIONS. ONE IS THAT THE VIRUS BEGAN IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER, BASE ON HIS OPINION, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT HID IT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. AND ALSO TWO, THAT HE THINKS NOT SIMPLY BASED ON, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSITION BUT BASED ON THE MEANS THE INFECTION ARISED, IN HIS PROFESSIONAL EVALUATIONS OF THE MEANS IT ACTED, THAT IT WAS ALSO SOLID AND TOO ADVANCED TO HAVE ORIGINATE FROM NATURE. AND HE ' S REFERRING TO THE RESEARCH AT THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY. NOW THAT MATCHES THE INFORMATION THAT APPEARED OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AND WAS VERIFIED BY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO SOME EXTENT WHEN THEY WAS AVAILABLE IN AND ALSO INSPECTED THE U.S.INTELLIGENCE WORK. SO IT ' S NOT SIMPLY ROBERT REDFIELD ' S POINT OF VIEW. THERE ' S An EXPANDING BODY OF PROOF THAT DETAILS TO THIS LABORATORY ACCIDENT THEORY. WHILE'WE DON ' T KNOW WHAT OCCURRED, WE CAN ' T SAY WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OCCURRED, THIS MAKES IT VERY, REALLY VITAL THAT THERE ' S EVEN MORE EXAMINATION WHICH WE REGARD THE RECURRING INVESTIGATION, FRANKLY, BY THE W.H.O. AND CHINESE SCIENTISTS AS NOT COMPLETION OF THE QUERY BELOW DUE TO THE FACT THAT, AS YOU KEPT IN MIND, THEY ARE POO-POOING THIS THEORY AGAIN. > > REDFIELD SAYS IT ' S JUST HIS OPINION, BUT HE ' S NOT JUST ANY MAN >> OR ANY JOE-SCHMO AS'YOU STATED. DON ' T WE DEMAND TO SEE THE EVIDENCE, HOW THIS OPINION OF HIS'AND ALSO THEN THE ASSERTS MADE BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND VERIFIED TO AN EXTENT BY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, WE NEED TO SEE THE EVIDENCE OF ALL OF THIS. > > WE NEED TO SEE THE PROOF ON THE CHINESE SIDE AS WELL AS UNITED STATE SIDE. ROBERT REDFIELD, WHEN HE WAS CDC DIRECTOR, HE WAS NOT A– DEAL WITH LEAD BY THE TRUMP MANAGEMENT. HE HAS NO REWARD, NO INSPIRATION TO BOND THEM OUT OR TO SUPPORT THEIR THEORY FOR THEIR SAKE.HE ' S DOING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HE ACTUALLY THINKS, AS WELL AS IT ' S BASED ON WHAT HE SAW WHEN HE WAS INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT.'SO THE SIMPLEST POINT TO DO IS FOR THE BIDEN MANAGEMENT IS TO RELEASE OPENLY THE INTELLIGENCE THAT THEY HAVE BUT THE ONLY REAL WAY TO FRACTURE THIS IS FOR THE CHINESE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TURN OVER THE DATA OF THE EARLY CASES, ALL OF THINGS THAT REMAINED IN THE LAB.WHAT THEY SAY IS, OH, THE LAB DIDN ' T HAVE THE VIRUS, SO THAT ' S THAT
. BUT WHAT ROBERT REDFIELD IS PHRASE IS'WE CAN ' T TAKE THAT AT FACE WORTH. WE ' LL REQUIREMENT AN'INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, BUT THE BIDEN MANAGEMENT COULD ALSO BE EVEN MORE TRANSPARENT AS WELL. > > EVEN IF THERE ' S AN INDEPENDENT EXAMINATION, WOULD CHINA BE INCLINED TO TURN OVER WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION THEY HAVE ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE LABORATORY? LEADING. AS WELL AS NUMBER 2, WHY DOESN ' T THE W.H.O. SEEM TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH DR. REDFIELD?'> > RIGHT. WELL, IN YOUR FIRST INQUIRY, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT HAS HAD> OVER A YEAR TO HAND OVER THE DATA, AND ALSO THEY ' VE DONE QUITE THE REVERSE. THEY ' VE HIT THE DAY. THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS THEY'' VE MANIPULATED THE DATA.THEY JAILED THE REPORTERS, SILENCED THE SCIENTISTS. THAT ' S A PATTERN OF OBFUSCATION AND ALSO WHITEWASH VIRTUALLY UNDENIAL NOW. THAT ' S An ISSUE THAT'I PUT ON ' T THINK THAT WE ' RE GOING TO BE'ABLE TO ADDRESS. AS WELL AS THAT'' S UNFORTUNATE. AND ALSO THE W.H.O. TEAM, WHICH I'' M CERTAIN CONTAINS A GREAT DEAL OF WELL-MEANING INDIVIDUALS, SIMPLY DOESN'' T HAVE THE ACCESSIBILITIES THAT THEY REQUIREMENT. SOME OF THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE W.H.O.INVESTIGATIVE TEAM HAVE CONFLICTS OF PASSION. AND THEIR STATEMENTS UP UNTIL NOW REVEAL THEY ' RE NOT REALLY LOOKING RIGHT INTO THE LAB CRASH THEORY WHATSOEVER BECAUSE THEY DON ' T BELIEVE IT TO BE REAL. THEY DON'' T WANT IT TO BE TRUE. WE SHOULDN ' T NEGLECT THE W.H.O. EXAMINATION, BUT IT ' S NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETION ALL, BE EVERY ONE OF WHAT WE KNOW. IT SIMPLY CAN'' T BE. AS YOU HEARD, THE HEAD OF THE CDC WHILE OF THE BREAK OUT SAYS THE W.H.O. INVESTIGATION IS ON THE INCORRECT TRACK. >> > > JOSH ROGIN, SO GOOD TO OBTAIN YOUR REPORTING AND PROFICIENCY INTO THIS. >> > > CONTAINER'' T WAIT ON THE SPECIAL. >> > > IT'' S GOING TO BE– DON'' T MISS THIS UNMATCHED EVENT WITH DR. SANJAY GUPTA WHEN THE MEDICAL LEADERS OF THE BATTLE ON COVID BREAK THEIR SILENCE. SEE THE CNN SPECIAL “” COVID WAR: THE.
