foreign ERS if he goes he finds a hitchhiker and he
now is getting into his mother's funeral he realizes he's kind of missed it he is going
to the house they're playing the tapes but then he sees the head or the lack of head and
the body and the you know later on he claims he knew it wasn't her because of the birthmark of
his uh peeper and he is you know he's he falls asleep and also I guess to rewind this is again
going back to what we talked about earlier we go downstairs we see all her accomplishments that she
has all these businesses and I think and again I don't know if I want to re-watch it anytime soon
but I'm gonna probably watch it one day just kind of pick out Easter eggs but I'm pretty sure again
this is to me when the movie says to me that Mona set up almost everything and again this is where
I feel like it was such a Truman Show movie that she's really has been in this man's life in
every aspect of it because there's a picture on the on when she was coming upstairs of him
in his apartment on the phone so it kind of shows you that she was a part of it since the
beginning and then there's like this Con she's buying she buys real estate and I think one of
the buildings was the building that Beau lived in and it was almost like a building that she
created to build his fear and then we see him as a kid taking the pills which to me seems to be
ever since Beau was a kid she's she's a test dummy he's a a a lab rat that she's tried out the drugs
on him she puts him in this environment to see if he's resilient or if he can survive the world she
sets up these relationships so to me this is when the film is just like the old aha moment that
Mona has literally and every aspect of his life she has been monitoring him and studying him and
using her son as a product uh but I could be wrong but as that happens Elaine pops up and and listen
I love when she comes up and her immediate thing is time to have sex it's time for Bo to become
a man I guess and Amanda this is what I want you to obviously talk about all this stuff I just
mentioned but the sex scene which was the most funny in one of the more Awkward sex scenes I've
seen a long time luckily I wasn't in a theater with my two best friends like Kobe I was in there
was like three people in the theater thank you Kobe thank you perfect when that song comes on
Amanda I don't normally like uh do any visceral moments or like laugh out loud in the middle of
a movie because I like to respect my other people around I couldn't help but the laugh because that
was just so damn funny the needle Drive was great before we get Mona coming in what did you think
about that whole setup of the funeral the the downstairs of like revealing that she might
have been a part of it all since the beginning to meaning Elaine in the sex scene really likes
that we got to see all of that that he's kind of seeing his mother and who she is for the very
first time because I don't think he knew that she did any of that apart from him like take like the
pictures and the posters that we saw um he didn't acknowledge the fact that he was a product um
for her and that she tried so many things on him um and it was a weird relationship from the very
beginning but this ties into the ending where I've I don't want to get too far ahead so I'll
speak on it later I love the word that you used excess at this point we're two plus hours into the
film and it just feels like like reflecting back there's a good movie in here but there's
so much excess that's masking like genius [ __ ] that could have been at work like if
I wanted to explore the trauma of a man because of the unhealthy relationship between he and his
mother yeah there's so much I could have taken away and removed that doesn't have to Cloud the
way because even by this point I don't believe anything is changing the way Beau thinks about his
mother or himself it's just things happening to him continuously so it feels very much redundant
at this point where it's just like more bad is happening more bad is happening more bad is
happening yet I don't see him ever being changed by the bad for good or For Worse you know it's
like it's just he just has to accept that these uncanny things are happening and it's further
steeped in surrealism that it loses the weight of its Effectiveness because like I don't know what
the stakes are because if he's truly dead then all of this is for not if she's truly dead then
I don't know what we're doing here but if she's pulling the strings from behind we have no no idea
when it's happening is she pulling the strings inside of his head because she's now A specter
of all the bad manifestations of who she actually is so maybe this is all in his head maybe he's
projecting an evil mother when she really isn't I'm so confused then I'm questioning
everything that happens because then immediately afterwards we go into the Attic
oh well yeah we gotta set this question yeah but then we kind of to Pivot into this third
act y'all and starting with you Kobe again she's coming out from the Shadows Mona she's alive
this whole time getting into Mona who I think stole the third act she saved the third act for me
because it is so ridiculous it just kind of makes the rest of the film kind of weightless but her
performance was just so strong and so demanding and it's rare to see again we talked about how
great Joaquin Phoenix is you know I don't want to say she outclassed them but just from a
character stuff because at this point Boaz has been so beaten down and just so in shock and
she's just so heightened that I'm just like she is just eating all this up but taking it over to you
Colby we get the reveal we go up and find out that the therapist has been in it the whole time she's
taped all their sex sessions and it symbolizes or it kind of summarizes that bow it blames
everything on his mind which is I think something that we can all kind of at least understand or
relate to that it is a conversation a lot of people has you know oh I'm this way because of my
mom I'm this way because of my dad or not to get too dark but we have all those conversations about
in in the U.S in particular with gun control and we have all these tragedies of school shootings
and you know the mental health is is like the last thing that people bring up it's more or less so
where were the parents in this thing and people blame parents for everything that they that their
kids end up being which I think there is a certain leash you can have of that but at some point
you as an individual have to grow up be your own individual person and take accountability
for your own action so that moment to me was a was really like okay I like where they're going
there but Kobe your thoughts on just all this reveal here and uh the therapists the bo learns
about you know all this the stuff that's going on lead it into the penis and the dad and the clot
and being in the Attic man take it away Kobe so because like as Patti LuPone is like walking
through her bedroom and then through the bathroom in the closet because like we keep
remember we've gone back several times to that bathroom scene right so like what is this
relevance what traumatic event happened as a child that he hasn't been able to escape from
and I feel like everything all the previous things I don't think the foreshadowing
was because at first I thought like she was insinuating that like he had a brother that
didn't work out I have that in my notes and I I was going to bring it up here that it is that
yeah it was a brother and the dad was the penis so I thought would she reveals like if you
don't blah blah blah blah they go she pulls down the thing and traps him I'm like oh did
she trap the brother who was like a question I had one yeah right like like cotsie doing
that yeah it's the father but then there's this dick monster in the corner yeah
and but like is the Father's the the dick monster or is the Father the thing is
because there was a small person there so I'm like wait if that's the dad who's the is
the dick monster just like this is this yeah like these things like like an alien
right and then he kills Jesus Jesus still if this is all in his head yeah then we don't
need to apply the rules of reality but then if we don't need to apply the rules of the reality
I didn't yeah I didn't get that I thought his dad was up there for a split second like yeah
the person that you saw and it wasn't the dick but then on top of that I'm like wait a minute if
Bo's so terrified of that freaking addict that he keeps replaying it what if he's in the Attic yes
and I was like it's him the whole time and she trapped him up there because there were things in
the Attic that and in the house that he was like living through like obviously his own apartment
and then he saw different things and I'm just like but that also doesn't make sense because he like I
I was lost when I mean lost I was lost like I had no idea at that point but that's what I thought
if Bo was up there I don't know the entire time what I'm waiting for is the reveal like what we
get in Moon night essentially we get a reveal that everything is that everything that we see
has a mirror image of what actually happens in real life and does every Storyteller need to
like give that I don't think so but when it doesn't work it doesn't work and then we rely on
that because essentially Bo Ito is you know he he you know he said what's the word uh um an
unreliable narrator yeah right but then the hardest part when I get to this point I'm just
like okay so I feel like I've seen this movie before and it had Joaquin Phoenix in it and it's
called Joker and the unhealthy relationship that he had with society and his mother and we're
essentially doing this I want that movie's way better it's way better like and I should have
all these other questions and I'm just like yeah and I feel bad because like I really love ariaster
but like at this point of the film and we still got 30 something minutes to go yeah yep yes so to
address that and then let us know in the comments for you who all are watching this I did feel as
though to Kobe and Amanda's I interpreted as yes Beau had a twin brother and his brother was the
one that was put up in the attic uh because we do have we revisit that flashback for one last time
and when she says it's not a uh nightmare it's a Memory you had we saw youngbo arbo Joaquin Phoenix
he was the one in the tub like are you gonna say anything he's like no he's complicit but the other
brother who has spoken up against Mona she locked them in the attic for all those years so and then
the father is the penis like she saw that that you know manifestation of like he was just there to
serve one thing which I wanted I think she says earlier I just want to have kids and she all she
saw from the dad is just some means to have kids and that's all she saw him as is that uh versus
like an actual person with two arms and two legs and a head uh so that's how I kind of interpret
it which to Kobe points it brings us into just wrap it up this chaotic third act which to me I'll
just go ahead and say this is where the film just completely just falls apart uh because it takes
it makes everything else just seem so pointless again I love what Patty does but we have
Bo finally stepping up for himself he strangles his mom doesn't kill her but
she passes out he leaves the scene the crime scene and goes on this boat again man it
alludes with the water being a big symbolism we go in this kind of almost I don't know if it
was recreating his birth essentially we go in this Stadium of being a he's on trial if he's a shitty
son or not and we're just watching her just laying prior to that she was laying into him this whole
third Act of like how bad he was as terrible he is you should have came you should have came when
uh I called you the first time and all the stuff she did the birthday gift giving her the same gift
two years in a row just a bad son which what's the message in that what are you trying to tell us
all right that wasn't so frustrating but Amanda we get to this trial sequence the doctor slash
family lawyer is giving his accounts we have bows defense telling him you know his side of the
story and ultimately a man that is decided that Bo is just a shitty son and the boat explodes he
drowns it's almost like I brought you into this world I can take you out and it reverses again
how we opened a film with him being born and essentially going back and being unborn I guess
if you want to look at it that way but Amanda take it away what did you think about this final
and third bombastic chaotic crazy third after the film this is where I thought that he was in
purgatory because it just makes the most sense where his he's on trial for all of his actions
then he gets to speak out and all of that and then he dies at the end of this so is that he's he's
I you know he's going to hell given the fact that his mother is like well you did X Y and Z to me
that's why you're a terrible son so it essentially feels like that's where it's heading so then
everything that happens to him prior to this trial isn't real whatsoever and that's why I can't
like believe anything that happens before this and that's why it loses all its like
um how can I put it it loses all of its I guess accountability in the fact that you're
trying to make it a psychological Thriller um but you're missing the fact that we can connect
with Beau like for me wanting to him to die in the third act already like I could care less about
what happens to him at that point um so I just think that the believability was lost and if if
people do watch this film from the beginning again I would like be mindful of the fact that like none
of it's real from the very beginning and that he's going through trials that would essentially put
him in hell because his mother's been torturing him his entire life that's the only way that I can
look at it now it's a way I've like interpreted it um because that's the only way it makes sense
in my brain um with everything that happened and Kobe before it talks to you and that's where it
kind of again it loses so much weight for me in the third Act is because you know we're focused
so much on Mona but it was from both respect to this whole film but now you're telling me that it
was Mona from the why even have kids right that's I guess that's a big question it's like why does
she even want to have kids if we find out if she's been recording his life and his decisions so like
they go to the mall why did you hide from your Mall from your mom to make her scared she broke
her legs like so now Mona's the star and we're supposed to feel bad for about him but we spent
two and a half hours having empathy and sympathy for Bo but now we find out that he's a terrible
son and she's so backward storytelling to me Kobe um but your thoughts on this third act man again
we find out he's been recorded his whole life Mona feels like he's a terrible son he ultimately
loses his defense attorney and has defend for himself he ultimately accepts his faith which is
dying and in the film and we have the credits and I thought Kobe take it away bro yeah so at this
point like the film Lost me an hour beforehand right that I'm just trying to see like maybe
there's got to be something redeeming that's going back and and the poem performance is strong
even though that saved it yeah but it's it's the character motivation that just doesn't work for
me because I'm big about perspective and if I'm unsure if this is from Mona's perspective or from
Bo's perspective but we have no idea where it's coming from because if we believe that the
entirety of this film is inside of his head when does he question like what he's coming
to grips with is he just in full except the trouble is so much from his mother that he
has convinced himself that he's a shitty son but he never says that to himself yeah he never
said something he never says that to him except that yeah so is him dying in his head if
this is all in his head when did he die I'm so lost and all of the pillars are what built
up the world continually with each Act get taken down I no longer have any like believability to
what the goal like the exterior goal was clear for Bo to be able to get back to his mom because
he felt the guilt of not being there because she died right you know and he was being impressed
upon by the lawyer that was important for him to be there and there was these active obstacles
that he had to overcome and along the way there was questions of his own character in ethics that
he was battling but in no way does he ever say to himself no I've got to get there and I recognize
that I'm not always strong but I really am strong he doesn't go through any of that exactly so now
I don't believe this character I don't believe the conflict because the conflict feels contrived
so she's hired all these people when we see along with the journey active obstacles that
she's created for him to still pursue her yep yeah it's so hard yeah man and I'm just and like
honestly if I didn't have any reverence for Arias or how much I loved but some are like I as a film
creative responsibility to like stick to the end but like there's times I honestly just wanted to
check out and just leave yeah you know but I'm like I I stuck out all the way through and then
we ultimately he dies and there's people that are like no he does come to a realization like
you know and you can see it on his face I think being I think essentially just saying like you
know what whatever that's not realization for me like and I'm just like I didn't need three hours
to experience this yeah so once again this is the least payoff I've ever had in a movie you know
and that's what like honestly that's what ins that like that is what ignited this fiery the moment
that the credits came up on screen I stood up and I said I don't want to hear a single clap for
this I just don't and I yeah it's tough man I'm selling because again like as we've been said at
the very beginning of the stream how we we do uh the fact that there's a studio by 824 was one
of my favorite Studios out there that allowed Aria to come into this pitch meeting and say hey
guys I got this movie I've been cooking up and I don't think he gets this movie made without
hereditary and mid summer like this is not a movie you make out of the first date because it's
never being made so I there is a moment of me and going back to just being a fan of film and a
critic that likes the idea that a studio would allow someone to put this out there regardless of
you know not signal Landing the fact that they're taking risk makes me happy as a film goal because
we always talk about sequels recalls reboots IPS Marvel Disney Star Wars where is originality
we have it right here with this help so it that side of me is like it gives me hope for the movies
moving forward we can get even if it doesn't turn out well that there is a studio at least allowing
people to take risks and that it was unfortunately it doesn't stick The Landing Amanda any final
thoughts from you on this experience on I guess because I've seen some things online that they
some people are saying this is a career killer this is uh you know un you know in a redeemable
he can't come back for that I don't think that's the case I think we're gonna see already Asher
making a film and probably get back on track and make a straight-up war or maybe he plays another
genre we'll see I don't think this is going to end his career but I would say you Amanda as far
as just final overall thoughts and I guess what would you like to see Arias do next we have the
cult movie with the witches and the mother and son Dynamic and a mother and more tragedy from one
generation x we have a co-dependent relationship at mid-summer of someone finding themselves
uh by then in the film and now we have a very toxic relationship between a mother and the
son who manipulates him and gaslights him and makes him out to be as we talked about again it
makes him out to be the villain at the end does it seem like he likes parents a lot in his movies
huh listen Kobe I need that that biopic of Aria stuff like what has my man suffered through
what that what has he who hurt you or is the question I have but uh Amanda thoughts and Mr Ari
after his next project what would you like to see I think he needs to ease up on psychological
her I think this man this memory because there's some funny beats in all three of his films so I
think if he kind of like simplifies a storyline make like uses that dark humor um I think that
would be kind of a pivot and a bit refreshing um because all three of his films are very heavy
this being the heaviest um to process because they're so it's so complex um I do like him I
think he's he's great as you said like without hereditary amidst Amar this movie wouldn't have
been made apparently he had this in the works for 10 years so if his name like didn't do it yeah
it's been 10 years that's why I'm saying like this was a studio project that no one picked up
yeah yeah which you can't find actually because the actor the main actor unfortunately passed away
um so they took it off because and also to I think the short gives away a lot of beats in this film
so that he didn't want to spoil the movie but I'm sorry go ahead man no no it's okay yeah no it's
okay um but I I do like that he's taking risks I think the best word to describe Beau is afraid
is that it's very ambitious um it's an ambitious film it's it's overly like bloated there's a lot
of excess that could have been cut down but it is an experience that we've been saying over
and over again throughout this entire review um so if you go in blind I think that's the best
way to approach this don't watch any trailers go in if you want um but I'm excited for his
work I think we need more originality and that's something that we've all been looking
for in the mess that is recalls like you said uh Elliot so yeah I I like him I like him as a
director I like him as a filmmaker but let's let's hit those comedies Let's uh let's liven things up
a bit and departure because I think this is gonna be like a cute little horror Trilogy cute little
look what I said yeah that is the cutest horror Trilogy of all time thank you but he covered so
much in those three that I think let's depart from this genre yeah make something new so yeah Kobe
would say you man any final thoughts in this film what would you maybe want to see Aria should do
next and I guess yeah just your commentary on on you know someone taking risk and and filmmaking
moving forward and if ariasure after ball is afraid of someone that you still get excited for
that you when you see his next project announced you're like I'm excited or like half the ball is
afraid I'll wait till that comes out on uh you know on streaming let's say you Kobe yeah so like
this is definitely one of the more frustrating um movie going experiences that I've ever had I think
it is one of the worst films I've ever watched but not necessarily because it's an all-out bad film
it's just my level of investment and also like the length I'm not the guy that says like initially
like the length of a film is gonna like you know it like yeah I'm just gonna crap on it like
no it's not that yeah but when it completely doesn't pay off and I feel that wasted because
like on top of the three hour run time I do have 25 minutes of TR like yeah this was all for not
and I don't like I feel like this is one of those films like I don't have a desire to watch for a
second time I don't I don't want to one and done well the people that have watched this thing three
times or whatever like yo more power to you I just I cannot I can't recommend it to folks uh but I
absolutely will watch whatever he has next like what he was able to give me through Midsummer he's
not a one-hit wonder like I said I really enjoyed the first part to hereditary and it's not like the
second part was bad it just felt like it wasn't earned um but like I was one from start to finish
with midsomar um but I think it's because of the direction the writing and as well the performances
like what we got um you know from Florence pules um Jack uh uh yeah yeah so yeah something like
that like like they were both really really good and it just like that film worked on me so
much and once again the performances in here are strong even despite the writing but like I can
get like you're everybody's entitled to a bad film um the the crazing and I think what's like kind of
like gone into the Davis is that what I don't want to see is that we have this penchant of allowing
leashes to certain storytellers then we do others because like I keep saying oh this is so audacious
this is so wild this what we need but like at that point like as a Critic am I not shooting my Bureau
for how I create films where I have audaciousness one director but another and I I just I I feel
like we're treading a really interesting line because like and if somebody can sit here like
make an argument for this that like really understands them maybe like I'll change my stance
but like I just there's some things in here that I feel like are indefensible and as a person who
was in the room when yes I love how everybody now is using the hashtag career killer um shout out
to Eric Weber yes that was him somebody illegally recorded a conversation that Eric Weber and I were
having in a movie theater so if you heard that audio that is me on the other end and Eric Weber
is over here saying Kobe and I'm like no it's not number one he's a guy that [ __ ] ain't going
nowhere all right his privilege will keep his career afloat everybody's entitled to a bad film
I loved Jordan peels us I know it was not everyone yeah you know and I don't I do not believe that
a project that is a quote unquote Miss for some should be labeled as a career killer like yeah
this didn't work but he's already got something in the works you know um so yo take this he'll
learn from it he recognizes and he knew that this is going to be a very divisive film 100.
He's
embracing it too I've seen some joking so he's like I hope people hate their not to that except
he's hoping that people have this type of reaction and maybe that's convenient right to be able
to do that but then also this is still art you know there's no formula there's no magic science
there are things that like right do have objective standards and he purposely wanted to deviate
from a lot of those things um he said that this is his most personal it's up for us to be able to
dissect what that is I do want to hear some of the David did you get a chance to hear the Q a that
he had in I think in Canada he did yeah I did and he didn't really have okay nothing he gave
him shots no cause like he he's sitting there and uh the moderator was like uh he was asking
him he's like well what did you you know why did you do this in this in the film or what made
you you know um you know do certain things make certain decisions and he's like well it's how
you interpret it like did you purposely do this I don't know like it was quite it was
answers like that but I'm like you know what I appreciate it out of him for even doing
that because you know what whatever he thinks is what he thinks he's gonna visually do that for
us as a director and as even as a writer like his thoughts are on the page and then he puts it out
there for us so it's like whatever he intended is not going to be what we're going to analyze
or what exactly so I I appreciate that because you can always talk about the cinematography and
the script and you can talk about that but like it's subjective at the end of the
day so I I appreciate what he said and that's my final thoughts on it is again I'll
go back to just I appreciate the art the artists of filmmaking and that is he's not holding our
hands as Kobe said many times he's not full uh uh spoon feeding us this is what's happening
right it is I think films not all films right but some films I think we need to be challenged
as audiences and not just you know we always have these quotes at least I say it every now
and then where it's like hey I shut the brain off and just watch what was going on on screen
and some films have that type of um uh a leash to it but some films do want to challenge his
audience you know it's a Kobe's point I think certain run times they know it's a challenge
three hours of a film is is you know whether it's Avengers or or Martin Scorsese the Irishman
people know that it's going to be a certain you know just to get people in theaters especially
in today's society of our short intention spans and streaming and all that stuff so it is a
challenge just to get you in the theater first off and then they go on this journey something else as
a whole so I am excited to see what he does next as Amanda said whether it's a comedy whether it's
a full-length animated film about I don't know a healthy relationship already asked her can we get
a healthy relationship between a mother and a son or the dad the son a good relationship can we
see if he's is HE capable of that guys this is the question I have but I'm excited to see who he
does next and while this didn't this was all my most participated films of the year and I want to
say it's the most disappointing because I haven't seen the rest of the film in my list but I am
slightly disappointed that didn't really stick The Landings in the day but I am at least happy that
there's still art being made that can challenge this audience and question what was real what
was fake was she hired you know was it you know all the stuff that we talked about throughout the
stream it is I guess as a film lover it's nice to have those uh and I want more I want more complete
stories with more definitiveness and cohesiveness but I do like to be challenged uh and I think Aria
should accomplish that so very interesting film to talk about and again we I do this more often but
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