TIMOTHY HEAPHY, THANKS EXTREMELY MUCH FOR COMING ON TODAY. WE APPRECIATE IT. >>> > > > RIGHT HERE IS FORMER VICE PRESIDENT AND POSSIBLE 2024 PROSPECT MIKE PENCE. >> > >'WE ' RE ACQUIRING PENCEY> HERE? > > THIS IS REALLY PENCEY. >> > > PENCEY AREA, EVERYONE. > > YEAH, IT IS SORT OF DIFFERENT. A VARIOUS SORT OF ATTACK CIRCUMSTANCE. >> > > KIND OF A PENCEY ATTACK. >> > > IT IS PENCEY >>. > > NOT A PENCER, A PENCEY >>. >> > > RIGHT. > >> OK. >> >'> RIGHT HERE HE >> IS. >> > > I ' >> M READY. > > MIKE PENCE. > > MM-HMM. >' > EVALUATING IN ON REPUBLICANS ' UNDERPERFORMANCE IN THE 2022 ELECTIONS AS WELL AS HIS THOUGHTS ON 2024. >> > > MM-HMM. >> > > OUR CANDIDATES WE'' RE FOCUSED ON THE PAST, PARTICULARLY ON RELITIGATING THE LAST ELECTION, DID NOT DO WELL, INCLUDING IN AREAS WE OUGHT TO HAVE DONE EXTREMELY WELL.
>> > > DO YOU SAY WE DEMAND SOMEBODY ELSE ON 2024? YOU'' RE ON RECORD SAYING THAT. >> > >'WE ' LL HAVE BETTER OPTIONS, I REALLY >> DO. > > THAN FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> > > I BELIEVE'WE ' LL HAVE BETTER OPTIONS. >> > > I NEVER ACTUALLY COMPREHENDED, WILLIE, IN “” HARRY POTTER,”” WHY THEY COULD NEVER SAY VOLDEMORT'' S NAME, YOU RECOGNIZE, BUT HARRY DID, RIGHT? HARRY DID. >> IT MADE >> ALL THE DIFFERENCE. > > RIGHT. > > DUMBLEDORE, “YOU UNDERSTAND, “YOU SHOULDN ' T HAVE COME TONIGHT, TOM”.” THEY CLAIMED HIS NAME. GOOD IDEAS TOOK PLACE TO HARRY, RIGHT? RIGHT? I ASSUME IT SORT OF DAUNTED VOLDEMORT. WHEN HE CLAIMED, “” YOU SHOULDN'' T HAVE COME RIGHT HERE, TOM,” IT FREAKED HIM OUT. >> > > ARE YOU OKAY? >> > > EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT I'' M DISCUSSING. > >> I PUT ON'' T THINK THEY DO.> >'> I ' VE SEEN EVERY “HARRY POTTER”” 134 TIMES, AND ALSO THERE ARE A GREAT DEAL OF INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE LIKE ME. ANYWAY, YOU OBSERVE, IT WAS THE NAME THAT COULD NOT BE SAID. TRUMP IS THE VOLDEMORT OF THE REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN PARTY.MIKE PENCE WON ' T SAY HIS NAME. NIKKI HALEY WON ' T SAY HIS NAME. POMPEO WON ' T SAY HIS NAME. > > SAY MY NAME. >> > > NO ONE WILL >> CLAIM VOLDEMORT'' S NAME. >> IT IS'PENCEY. > > THEY ' RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER PERSON CHARACTER IN GUIDE, BUT THEY HAVE TO SURPASS VOLDEMORT BEFORE THEY CAN REACH THE NEXT CHARACTER.THEY ' RE CALLING
ABOUT JOE BIDEN A GREAT DEAL, WHICH YOU COMPREHEND, NATURALLY, BUT WE HAVE A PRIMARY PRIOR TO WE HAVE A GENERAL POLITICAL ELECTION. INCIDENTALLY, JOE, HARRY POTTER WAS THE HERO OF THE STORY, THE ONE THAT STATED VOLDEMORT'' S NAME. THEY CALLED THE PUBLICATION AFTER HIM. RIDES IN ORLANDO, THE ENTIRE POINT. >> > > FANTASTIC. >> > >'HE ' S THE GUY.PENCE ALSO CRITICIZED, SORT OF, FLORIDA REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN GOVERNOR RON DeSANTIS OVER FLORIDA'' S EXPENSE THAT REVOKED DISNEY OF ITS SPECIAL TAX OBLIGATION CONDITION. >> > > I HAVE CONCERNS CONCERNING THE FOLLOW-ON. LOOK, DISNEY STEPPED INTO THE BATTLE ROYAL. THEY LOST. >> > > BUT THEN THEY– >> > > THE IDEA THAT THEY ' RE THE TIRING AUTHORITY, YOU KNOW, I– THAT WAS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT I AS A CONSERVATIVE LIMITED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN WOULD BE PREPARED TO PERFORM. >> > > YOU ' LL REMEMBER, DeSANTIS SIGNED REGULATION THAT REMOVED DISNEY'' S YEARS OLD UNIQUE TAX DISTRICT CONDITION AFTER DISNEY EXECS SPOKE UP AGAINST FLORIDA'' S REGULATION THAT LIMITS THE DISCUSSION OF SEXUAL POSITIONING OR GENDER IDENTIFICATION IN SCHOOLS.SO SORT OF A LITTLE OBJECTION. YOU SEE THE OUTLINES OF An INDIVIDUAL THAT INTENDS TO RUN FOR HEAD OF STATES AND ALSO SORT OF REALLY FEELING THE BOUNDARIES OF WHO HE CAN GO AFTER AND WHO HE TIN ' T. > > IT ' S JUST A LITTLE PENCEY'. >> > >'YEAH. > > I SUGGEST, HE DOESN >> ' >> T PURSUE DeSANTIS. > > SIMPLY A TAP, LIGHTLY. >> > > SIMPLY A TAP. >> > > TIPTOE, TIPTOE. >> > > INCIDENTALLY, IF YOU WANT TO MOST LIKELY TO HARRY POTTER GLOBE, IT'' S ACTUALLY AT UNIVERSAL IN >> ORLANDO. >> > > OH, YEAH. > >'DISNEY DOESN ' T HAVE ANY OF THE HARRY POTTER STUFF, CHILDREN. >> YOU HAVE TO GO TO UNIVERSAL. > > JOE, I EXISTED LAST WEEKEND WITH MY HOUSEHOLD. THE HARRY POTTER GLOBE AT UNIVERSAL. OH, MY GOSH, THE NEW HADRID RIDE. THEY'' RE BUILDING EVEN MORE HARRY POTTER THINGS, IT'' S INCREDIBLE.I DIGRESS
. >> > > WE DIGRESS, YES. IT'' S WONDERFUL. BUT THE IMPORTANT THINGS IS, THOUGH, WE'' VE SAID THIS PRIOR TO, GENE ROBINSON, THAT IF YOU'' RE A GUV AND ALSO YOU ASSAULT LARGE FIRMS DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU DON'' T LIKE THEIR NATIONAL POLITICS, YOU STRIKE SMALL COMPANY SINCE YOU PUT ON'' T LIKE THEIR NATIONAL POLITICS, AND YOU INFORM THEM THAT THEY CAN NOT KEEP THEIR PREMISES SAFE BASED ON HOW THEY, AS PRIVATE ENTRPRENEURS, WANT TO MAINTAIN IT SAFE. IF YOU'' RE STEPPING IN AND ALSO PLACING THE BOOT OF BIG GOVERNMENT DOWN ON CRUISE SHIP LINES THAT ARE DESPERATE TO RESTART CRUISES IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID BUT NEED TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS AS WELL AS, YET, YOU HAVE A CENTRALIZED STATE STAR LIKE RON DeSANTIS GOING, “” NO, DISNEY, YOU CAN'' T CARRY THIS OUT. CRUISE LINES, YOU TIN'' T DO THAT. LOCAL BUSINESS, YOU TIN'' T DO THAT. SCHOOL BOARDS, YOU CAN'' T ACCOMPLISH THIS.” THERE IS NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TRADITIONALIST BASED ON THE INTERPRETATION THAT MIKE PENCE AND ALSO I MATURED WITH, IN THE PRE-TRUMP ERA. THERE IS NOTHING TRADITIONALIST ABOUT THAT. THAT IS BIG GOVERNMENT WITH A “” B”” AND A “” G.” >>” > > YEAH, IT IS CERTAINLY NOT CONSERVATIVE.YOU KNOW, THIS JACK-BOOTED TECHNIQUE THAT DeSANTIS TAKES, THIS HUMORLESS, I ' M A GOON', I'' LL GO AFTER YOU METHOD, YOU RECOGNIZE, IT FUNCTIONED IN FLORIDA. GOT HIM A BIG RE-ELECTION VICTORY. I AM STILL EXTREMELY HESITANT THAT THIS WORKS ACROSS THE NATION THE WAY HE BELIEVES IT DOES. >> > > YEAH >>. > > I ASSUME, YOU RECOGNIZE, AS MORE INDIVIDUALS LEARN MORE ABOUT HIM AND AS HE IS AROUND A WHILE, THE LONGER THAT GOES ON, THE EVEN WORSE IT IS FOR DeSANTIS, IN MY VIEWPOINT. BUT THAT WAS THE PENCIEST OF STRIKE I'' VE EVER LISTENED TO, BUT IT WAS AN ATTACK.WE ' LL
SEE HOW THAT ESTABLISHES. WE'' LL SEE IF OTHERS GO AFTER HIM FOR THIS DISTINCTLY UNREPUBLICAN, UNCONSERVATIVE MOVE HE'' S TAKEN VERSUS DISNEY, AGAINST MICKEY MOUSE >>. INCREDIBLE. > > YEAH. ASSAULTING MICKEY COMPUTER MOUSE, ATTACKING THE TAMPA BAY RAYS BECAUSE– AND ALSO ELIMINATING SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE WISHED TO PASS, A TAX OBLIGATION BENEFIT, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY TWEETED OUT THEIR SYMPATHIES TO YOUNG YOUNGSTERS WHO HAD ACTUALLY SIMPLY BEEN SLAUGHTERED IN UVALDE COLLEGES. EVERY ONE OF THESE ACT, MAYBE THEY PLAY WELL IN TALLAHASSEE, THEY'' RE REALLY SMALL ROUND. WE'' LL SEE. WE ' LL SEE HOW THEY SERVICE THE NATIONAL PHASE. YEAH, HE WON HUGE IN FLORIDA. HE WON HUGE IN FLORIDA. PARTIALLY, SAM, BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEVER APPEARED, NEVER OFFERED CHARLIE CRIST ANY SUPPORT, NEVER GAVE HIM An OPPORTUNITY TO MAINTAIN IT CLOSE. AFTER THAT EVERYBODY GOT ELIMINATED. I'' M CURIOUS IF DeSANTIS' ' ACT OF ATTACKING MICKEY COMPUTER MOUSE, ATTACKING BASEBALL GROUPS, WHETHER HE CAN TAKE THAT NATIONWIDE. >> > > I MAY BE A LITTLE EVEN MORE BULLISH, I ASSUME, THAN EUGENE. NOT NATIONWIDE, NECESSARILY, BUT I DO THINK IT MAY PLAY IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. IT IS, FOR LACK OF– YOU UNDERSTAND, IF WE'' RE SPEAKING CRUDELY ABOUT IT, IT IS A TRUMPY PLAYBOOK THAT HE IS OPERATING.USE THE POWER OF
THE STATE TO ACHIEVE YOUR POLITICAL ENDS. YOU UNDERSTAND, HE GOT SUPPORTED WILDLY BY TRADITIONALISTS FOR GOING AFTER DISNEY, FOR GOING AFTER THE RAYS. THEY'' VE LONGED FOR CONSERVATIVES TO UTILIZE STATE POWER TO PERFORM SIMPLY THAT. SO HE DID IT. I BELIEVE IT'' S MADE HIM– I THINK'IT ' S MADE HIM A SORT OF CULT HERO FIGURE ON THE RIGHT. I BELIEVE THE QUESTION IS, AS WELL AS THIS BRINGS IT BACK TO PENCE, YOU UNDERSTAND, ULTIMATELY, SOMEBODY'' S REACHED HANDLE TRUMP, RIGHT? A PERSON ' S GOT TO PURSUE HIM BY NAME. IT'' S EARLY, AS WELL AS I OBTAIN IT. RON DeSANTIS HASN'' T ANNOUNCED HE IS GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT YET. SO MUCH, FROM CENT TO NIKKI HALEY TO OTHERS WHO HAVE SHOWN THEY'' RE GOING TO DELVE INTO THIS RACE, NO ONE IS WILLING TO GO AFTER TRUMP. WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO ME, WE'' LL HAVE A REENACTMENT OF 2016. EVERY PERSON WILL ATTEMPT TO BE THE LAST ONE STANDING AGAINST TRUMP.THEY ' LL GO AFTER DeSANTIS, AND AFTER THAT TRUMP MAY JUST, BECAUSE OF THAT, END UP COASTING TO THE ELECTION. > > YOU RECOGNIZE, WILLIE, THOUGH >>, IT IS SO CRAZY WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN WILLING TO DO, TO SELL OUT EVERY WORTH THEY ' VE EVER RELIED ON. I WAS HAVING A DISCUSSION A COUPLE DAYS AGO WITH SOME BUDDIES THAT MATURED IN THE CHURCH LIKE ME. EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD THE VERY SAME EXPERIENCE WITH EVANGELICALS THAT WERE STILL HARD CORE TRUMP FANS. ONE WAS EXPRESSION– I WAS TALKING WITH HIM, AND ALSO THE PERSON SAID, YOU RECOGNIZE, I UNDERGO WHAT HE DID EVERYDAY, AND ALSO HE NOTED IT.TALKED ABOUT THE VANITY, THE LYING, THE SELF-SERVING. HE CLAIMED, EACH OF THOSE THINGS ARE THE REVERS OF WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID AND ALSO WHAT JESUS CHRIST TAUGHT. LIKE I STATED, YOU TAKE A LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE BEATITUDES. JESUS SAYS, THESE ARE THOSE. TRUMP DOES THE OPPOSITE OF IT. AS WELL AS THE ANSWER WAS, AS WELL AS THE RESPONSE I ALWAYS HEAR IS, “” WELL, YES, THAT'' S TRUE.'HE DOESN ' T DO ANYTHING THAT JESUS CLAIMED HE OUGHT TO DO.BUT PERHAPS IT TAKES THAT KIND OF PERSON TO OBTAIN WHAT WE NEED DONE.”” WELL, THAT'' S THE PARADOX REGARDING, LIKE, SMALL COMPANY TRADITIONALISTS, THESE PEOPLE THAT I GREW UP AROUND WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SMALL COMPANY TRADITIONALISTS. THEY NEED LEADERS THAT USE THE POWER OF THE STATE. THEY WANT STRONGMEN. THEY NEED AUTHORITARIANS. HOW IRONIC IS IT THAT MY PARTY THAT I CONCERNED CONGRESS WITH IN 1994, WE WERE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE FOR SMALL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. CURRENTLY, THEY HAVE MORPHED, DEVELOPED INTO WHAT THEY DESPISED. THEY WANT BIG GOVERNMENT. THEY WANT STRONGMEN. THEY WANT AUTHORITARIANS TO USE THE POWER OF BIG GOVERNMENT TO TELL RESIDENT INSTITUTION DISTRICTS WHAT TO DO, TO TELL SMALL BUSINESSES WHAT TO DO. TO TELL CRUISE SHIP LINES WHAT TO PERFORM. TO TELL DISNEY WORLD WHAT TO DO. TO TELL THE TAMPA FL BAY RAYS WHAT TO ACCOMPLISH. THEY THINK THAT'' S AWESOME BECAUSE IT SHOWS STAMINA. NO, PENCE WAS RIGHT, THAT'' S THE REVERS OF BEING CONSERVATIVE.IF YOU INTENDED TO ELECT
FOR AN AUTHORITARIAN, YOU LOVE BIG FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT ' S FINE. DON ' T CALL YOURSELF A CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE YOU'' RE >> NOT. > > YEAH. I MEAN, TO YOUR FIRST POINT ABOUT EVANGELICALS, THE LINE, WE BOTH HEARD FOR YEARS WHEN WE'' D CONFRONT THEM ABOUT THAT WITH DONALD TRUMP IS, “” WELL, WE'' RE ELECTING A PRESIDENT, NOT A SAINT.WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO ACCOMPLISH?”” IN THEIR EYES, THAT WAS BORN OUT. 3 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES AS WELL AS ROE VERSUS WADE REVERSED. IT HAD TO DO WITH POWER, NOT ABOUT WHETHER HE ACTED LIKE JESUS. TO YOUR OTHER POINT ABOUT SMALL ORGANIZATION, YOU'' RE RIGHT, I SUGGEST, YOU HAVE GOVERNORS CURRENTLY REACHING IN, NOT JUST RIGHT INTO ORGANIZATIONS BUT TO ELEMENTARY COLLEGE LIBRARIES, GOING DOWN THE CHAIN THAT FAR AND CLAIMING, “” THAT PUBLICATION ABOUT HANK.
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