THE SPECIAL GRAND COURT IN FULTON REGION, GEORGIA HAS COMPLETED ITS EXAMINATION NOW INTO TRUMP'' S EFFORTS AS WELL AS ALL OF THOSE AROUND TRUMP TO OVER TURN THE 2020 ELECTION LEAD TO THAT STATE. WE DO NOT YET KNOW THE RESULTS OF THIS SPECIAL GRAND COURT'' S FINDINGS BUT WITH DO KNOW THERE IS A HEARING ON GUIDES. THE JUDGE HAS ACTUALLY SCHEDULED IT FOR LATER THIS MONTH TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER THE GRAND JURY'' S REPORT NEED TO BE MADE PUBLIC. THE LAST DECISION ON WHETHER TO BRING ANY CHARGES AGAINST TRUMP OR ANY PERSON FOR THAT MATTER WILL BE MADE BY THE FULTON REGION AREA ATTORNEY FANNIE WILLIS.AND SARAH, WHAT ARE YOU READING ABOUT THIS? WHAT IS THIS JUDGE STATING? >> > > WELL WE KNEW THEY WERE DEALING WITH THIS FINAL RECORD AS WELL AS NOW THE JUDGE IS EXPRESSION THEIR FUNCTION IS COMPLETED, THAT THE UNIQUE GRAND COURT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SOLVED. THEY WERE SEATED IN MAY OF 2022. THEY HAD THE POWER TO SUBPOENA WITNESSES, AND THEY THE POWER TO GATHER EVIDENCE, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS AND ALSO THEY HAVE CURRENTLY COMPLETED THIS LAST REPORT. BUT AGAIN, PROSECUTORS WILL REACH SEE, BUT IT IS AN OPEN QUESTION WHETHER THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL CERTAINLY REACH SEE IT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'' RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE FUTURE THIS MONTH. AS WELL AS IN THAT HEARING. BUT THIS IS AN EXAMINATION THAT BEGAN WITH THE CURRENTLY INFAMOUS PHONE CALL THAT DONALD TRUMP MADE TO GEORGIA SECRETARY OF STATE BRAD RAFFENSPERGER ASKING RAFFENSPERGER TO ASSIST HIM LOCATE THE VOTES. TAKE A LISTEN TO A SECTION OF THE PHONE CALL. >> > > ALL I WANT TO DO IS THIS. I JUST INTENDED TO DISCOVER 11,780 BALLOTS. >> WHICH IS ANOTHER THAN WE HAVE. > > NOW DISTRICT LAWYER FANNIE WILLIS STATED AFTERWARDS CALL SHE FELT SHE HAD TO OPEN THIS INVESTIGATION.IT IS An ENHANCED THOUGH WELL PAST THE CALL TO CONSIST OF THE PHONY ELECTOR PLAN, TO INCLUDE MAKING DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE RIDDLED WITH CONSPIRACY THEORY THEORIES CONCERNING THE ELECTION PRIOR TO STATE LEGISLATORS, TO INCLUDE EFFORTS BY UNAUTHORIZED PEOPLE TO ACCESSIBILITY VOTING MACHINES IN AT THE VERY LEAST ONE REGION. SO THERE IS A WHOLE LOT THAT THIS GRAND JURY HAS BEEN POURING OVER. EVERYONE IS VERY EAGER TO SEE WHAT IS IN THE FINAL RECORD AND TO SEE IF THEY RECOMMENDED ANY INDICTMENTS. IF SO, THE DISTRICT LAWYER COULD THEN GO AFTER THOSE COSTS.
>> > > STICK WITH United States. AND YOU HAVE FANTASTIC VIEWPOINT ON THE LONG EXAMINATION. AND JOINING United States TODAY IS MICHAEL MOORE, A FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE CENTER AREA OF GEORGIA. IT IS EXCELLENT TO SEE YOU. >> > > GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> > > WHAT DO YOU THINK COULD BE IN THIS FINAL– IN THIS GRAND COURT FINAL REPORT? OF TRAINING COURSE IT HAS NOT BEEN MADE PUBLIC BUT COULD CHARGING SUGGESTIONS BE INCLUDED? >> > > YEAH, WELL I'' M GLAD TO BE WITH YOU. I ASSUME IT IS LIKELY THAT THERE ARE CHARGING RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE RECORD. REMEMBER THAT THE REPORT REALLY IS AN INSTRUMENT NOT SIMPLY FOR THE GRAND COURT BUT FOR THE D.A. AND THE PROSECUTORS HAVE HAD THEIR HANDS AROUND IT. THE GRAND COURT IS NOT SITTING THEREIN WITH NOTEPADS DETAILED OUT WHATEVER THEY WISH TO HAVE AS WELL AS SOMEONE IS TYPING THIS UP IN THE EVENING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS DONE IN COMBINATION WITH THE PROSECUTOR'' S OFFICE, GETTING THEM THE WANTING OF THE GRAND JURY AND ANY SPECIFIC INQUIRIES OR COMMENTS THEY HAVE ABOUT THE PROOF THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM.SO PROSECUTOR KNOWS WHAT REMAINS IN THE REPORT. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BUT AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, I ALSO WILL KIND OF PUT THE MINDFUL INSTRUCTION AROUND, THIS IS THE STARTING OF THE PROCEDURE. THE PROOF PROVIDED TO THE GRAND JURY, AND ALSO THE WITNESS TESTAMENT OFFERED TO THE UNIQUE GRAND COURT HAS ACTUALLY NOT BEEN CHALLENGED, IT HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED BY INTERROGATION OR OTHER DEFENSE ADVISE INITIATIVES. SO THIS IS THE STARTING OF WHAT WE WOULD SEE IN A TYPICAL INSTANCE. THAT IS THAT IS THE PROSECUTOR HAS TO SEE IF SHE'' S GOING TO SEEK A ROUTINE INDICTMENT. I PUT ON ' T THINK WE ' LL SEE An UNIQUE RECORD WITHOUT RECOMMENDATIONS IN
IT.THE INQUIRY WILL CERTAINLY BE WHO HAVE TE RECOMMENDED THAT SHE FEE. AND ON WHAT COSTS. >> > > THAT IS ACTUALLY RIGHT. AS WELL AS ADDITIONALLY, MICHAEL, SARAH WAS INSTALLING OUT THERE IS A COURT DATE SET FOR THE PARTIES ENTAILED TO SUGGEST OVER WHETHER THE RECORD OUGHT TO BE MADE PUBLIC. DO YOU, MICHAEL, THINK IT WILL? WHAT DO THOSE ARGUMENTS APPEAR LIKE? >> > > WELL, I ASSUME IT IS A HAZARDOUS CRITERION FOR THE JUDGE TO MAKE IT PUBLIC IN THIS SITUATION. IN GEORGIA WE HAVE AN OPEN DOCUMENT STATUTE. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DON'' T SEE INVESTIGATIVE PRODUCTS AS WELL AS EXAMINE REPORTS IN ANY PENDING CRIMINAL CASE IS BECAUSE THE STATUTE CLAIMED THAT IS A FACTOR NOT TO DIVULGE INFORMATION UNTIL THE CASE IS CONCLUDED.SO THIS WOULD REALLY MODIFICATION PRECEDENT AND TYPE OF, I GUESS, BE AN DEBATE THAT YOU WOULD SEE MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS AND DEFENSE ATTORNEY MAKING FROM NOW ON. IF IT IS THE NORMAL POINT NOW TO RELEASE INVESTIGATIVE MATERIALS PRIOR TO WE GET TO A GRAND JURY, WE ' RE GOING REQUEST FOR THAT IN EVERY SITUATION. SO THERE IS A STRONG DISAGREEMENT THAT THIS NEED TO REMAIN IN THE PRESS AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY THAT SHE COULD CONSIDER IT WHICH SHE COULD AFTER THAT MAKE HER CHOICE CONCERNING PROGRESSING WITH THE NORMAL GRAND JURY. IT'' S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD, IF IT APPEARS PUBLIC, IT WILL JUSTIFY HER EFFORT AS WELL AS EXPENSE THIS FAR. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT PUTS STRESS ON HER TO ADHERE TO THE SPECIFIC REFERRALS OF THE UNIQUE FUNCTION GRAND COURT THAT SHE ASKED TO BE ASSEMBLED IN THE CASE.WHILE SHE MAY MAKE SOME STATEMENTS ABOUT PRODUCTION THE REPORT PUBLIC, COVERTLY SHE ' S HOPING TO MAKE IT PRIVATE AS WELL AS CHOOSE WHAT SHE COULD PRESENT TO THE REGULAR GRAND JURY. > > THAT IS VERY INTRIGUING. >> AND ALSO SARAH, YOU COULD REMIND INDIVIDUALS THE LONG LIST OF THE BIG NAMES THAT WERE CALLED AS WELL AS SOME OF THEM FORCED AFTER LEGAL BATTLES TO SHOT TO PREVENT IT TO APPEAR BEFORE THIS SPECIAL GRAND COURT. > > YEAH. I INDICATE, WE ' VE SEEN A GREAT DEAL OF BIG LABELS >> GO INTO THIS GRAND JURY. WE DON ' T KNOW EVERYBODY THAT HAS GONE IN THERE AND THEY ' VE HEARD FROM MANY WITNESSES.BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT RUDY GIULIANI'WAS JUST ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT APPEARED BEFORE THE GRAND JURY. WE NOR THAT BORIS EPSTEIN WHO IS ANOTHER ATTORNEY TO PREVIOUS HEAD OF STATE TRUMP WAS THERE. SOUTH CAROLINA SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM FOUGHT THIS TOOTH AND NAIL. HE SHOWED UP PRIOR TO THE GRAND COURT. BRAD RAFFENSPERGER AND BRIAN KEMP AS WELL AS MARK MEADOW WAS ORDERED TO APPEAR AFTER HE HAD BEEN COMBATING A SUBPOENA FOR HIS APPEARANCE ALSO. SO THEY OBTAINED INFO FROM A NUMBER OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND ALSO ONE OF THINGS THAT WE LISTENED TO FROM WITNESSES IS THAT THE GRAND COURT WAS VERY INVOLVED IN TYPE OF ASKING THESE WITNESSES FOLLOW-UP CONCERNS. THEY HAD EXTREMELY CLEARLY BEEN READ IN ON THE MATERIALS. SO AS MIKE WAS PHRASE, THEY FUNCTION WITH THE AREA ATTORNEY TO GATHER THIS FINAL REPORT. BUT WITNESSES HAVE DEFINED A REALLY ACTIVE GRAND JURY THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. > > ABSOLUTELY. AND ALSO MICHAEL, OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE BIG QUESTION WILL BE HOW AND WHEN ANYONE DISCOVERED IF THIS YEARS ' LONG INVESTIGATION BRINGS ABOUT AN INDICTMENT.JUST ON >> THAT CONCERN OF TIMING, WHEN DO YOU ASSUME WE WOULD KNOW? > > WELL, I THINK THAT THE AREA LAWYER IS PROBABLY BEEN WORKING ON THE CHARGES AS WE SPEAK
. BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT IS IN THE RECORD. SO IT IS SIMPLE TO CALL TOGETHER A GRAND JURY, IN A ROUTINE CRIMINAL TERM AND MAKE A RELATIVELY CONCISE DISCUSSION TO A GRAND JURY. TO MAKE A CASE BEFORE NORMAL CRIMINAL GRAND JURY, SHE WOULD NEED TO LAY OUT EVERY WITNESS AS WELL AS EVERY ITEM OF PROOF. SHE COULD DO THAT IN A RECAP PRESENTATION. SO SHE COULD BRING IN A NUMBER OF A WITNESSES AND ALSO SOME RECORDING STATEMENTS IF SHE WANTS TO, SOME DOCUMENTS IF SHE HAS THEM AND ALSO LAY OUT THE SEARCHINGS FOR THAT WERE MADE BY THE UNIQUE FUNCTION GRAND JURY. AS WELL AS ANY OTHER INVESTIGATIVE FIND THAT SHE ' S MADE.SO SHE COULD OBTAIN AN CHARGE WITHIN A NUMBER OF DAYS, I ASSUME. AND HER GROUP WILL TAKE A MONTH OR 2 TO DEVELOP THE SITUATION A LITTLE FURTHER. WHEN THE DECISION
IS MADE ABOUT THE REPORT AND AFTER THAT IF CHARGES ARE GOING TO APPEAR, I BELIEVE YOU ' LL SEE THEM CERTAINLY BY SPRING. > > IT WAS LIKEWISE, SARAH, SIMPLY TO WRAP IT UP, IT WAS SAID BY A GREAT DEAL OF WISE LEGAL MINDS THROUGHOUT– OVER THE IN 2015 THAT THIS REALLY WAS THE INVESTIGATION THAT INDIVIDUAL AROUND DONALD TRUMP >> WERE MOST NERVOUS CONCERNING, A LOT OF WORRIED REGARDING AND ALSO A GREAT DEAL OF– AND A GREAT DEAL OF LEGAL ANALYSTS SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BE A LOT OF WORRIED REGARDING IT IN REGARDS TO DONALD TRUMP ' S DIRECT EXPOSURE IF HE– ANY SORT OF LEGAL EXPOSURE THAT HE DOES HAVE.I ' M INTERESTED AS TO HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS NO AS IT MOVES RIGHT INTO THE NEXT PHASE. > > I BELIEVE IT IS SHIFTED A LOT BECAUSE THE WORRY WAS PRIOR TO WE KNEW THE JUSTICE DIVISION HAS SUCH A ROBUST EXAMINATION RIGHT INTO INITIATIVES TO REVERSE THE 2020 ELECTION AND ALSO AROUND JANUARY 6. WE KNOW MORE CONCERNING THE EXTENT OF THE EXAMINATION AND ALSO> THAT IS BEFORE THE MAR-A-LAGO EXAMINATION BECAME A TROUBLE, TYPE OF HOARDING THESE SENSITIVE DOCUMENTS AT MAR-A-LAGO. I DO THINK ONE POINT IS VERY CLEAR, DONALD TRUMP HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT THE FACILITY OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY ' S CASE IN GEORGIA. THE FEDERAL SITUATION MIGHT REACH TO DONALD TRUMP, AND ALSO MERRICK GARLAND MAY HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE BUT I ASSUME IT WAS ALWAYS EXTREMELY CLEAR AT THE VERY LEAST IN GEORGIA, THIS WAS AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT. >'> FANTASTIC COVERAGE AS ALWAYS, SARAH. MICHAEL, THANKS FOR LEAPING ON.I APPRECIATE IT.
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