♪ ♪ >> GOOD MORNING. GOOD IT'S A TUESDAY IT'S WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 18TH, THE COMMITTEE ON HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES WILL COME TO ORDER. THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT. AND WE HAVE ONE BILL ON THE AGENDA TODAY. AND ACTUALLY THE SENATOR MAKE WAITED. SO THIS IS IF SHE COULD COME TO THE TABLE. BEFORE WE BEGAN TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC OF MY EXPECTATIONS FOR THE THE HEARING TODAY. I KNOW THAT WE'RE HEARING ANOTHER BILL TODAY. THAT ONE THAT PEOPLE HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT AND WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT AND HAVING OUR DISCUSSION. THAT I EXPECT THAT WE WILL TREAT EVERYONE WITH RESPECT BY QUIETLY LISTENING WHEN MEMBERS THE OFFER. TESTIFIERS ARE SPEAKING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED TO KEEP THEIR REMARKS, RESPECTFUL AND DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS OR NOISES. ARE NOT OF ANY KIND ARE NOT PERMITTED. AS I SAID BEFORE, WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN AND CONDUCT THE BUSINESS OF THE SENATE. THIS IS A WORKING HEARING OF THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE.
AND I EXPECT THAT WE WILL DO SO DO OUR WORK WITH DIGNITY, RESPECT AND CIVILITY. THE TABLE AREA WHERE TESTIFIERS ARE SEATED AND THE SPACE IN FRONT OF THE SORT WALLS. IS RESERVED FOR MEMBERS ONLY AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE APPROACHING THE TABLE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY. IT IS NOT OPEN TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO A QUIET, PRESENT YOUR BILL. AND I DO THINK YOU HAVE AN AUTHOR'S AMENDMENT WHICH WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF. FIRST. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM SENATOR MORRISON. WOULD YOU MOVE THE? A ONE AMENDMENT IS THAT THAT'S OK? YES, ABOUT HER MOVIE. A ONE AMENDMENT. CENTER MAKE WAY. THIS AN AMENDMENT TO BRING THE BILL INTO THE SAFE THAT WHO WISH TO SEE IT PROCEED. THEN CONTAIN SOME TECHNICAL CHANGES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
YES, IT IS A TECHNICAL PROVIDED TO TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. >> IT CHANGES NOTHING ABOUT THE BILL JUST MAKES THE LINK VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO DO. BY. >> AND SO AND APPRECIATE PUTTING THE BILL IN ORDER AND WILL DISCUSS MANY THINGS ABOUT THIS BILL TODAY. BUT CAN YOU JUST PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TO RULE NUMBER 95, ALL 5.3 5 IS SENATOR. >> TRADITIONALLY WE ADOPT THE AUTHOR'S AMENDMENT EXPONENT DETAILED EXPLANATION. WE ALLOW THE AUTHOR TOO, BRING THE BILL INTO THE SAFE. I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON THE AUTHOR'S AMENDMENT MADAM CHAIR. IT'S A TOTALLY APPROPRIATE QUESTION.
JUST YOU'RE ADDING A NEW RULE IS IF IT'S JUST SHOULD BE EASY YOU'RE KEEPING. >> YOU'RE STRIKING. AND JUST ADDING THAT RULES. I THINK IT'S. INFORMATIVE TO ME. I DON'T KNOW. I UNDERSTAND GOING TO BE A J***. I JUST LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT? THAT'S AN EASY QUESTION. >> SENATOR MAY QUIT. MADAM CHAIR, CAN WE HAVE THE MOMENT DISTRIBUTED TO MEMBERS OF ITS IN THEIR POCKETS AND THEY HAVE A I'M SORRY. ON THE PAGES, PLEASE. I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT THAT WHEN WE ADOPT THE AUTHOR'S AMENDMENT, WE DON'T. WE DO IT. AND THEN WE CAN PROCEED WITH OTHER QUESTIONS.
BUT MADAM CHAIR, VERY OFTEN. >> AUTHOR'S AMENDMENT TO COME TO BRING SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN WHICH THE PUBLIC HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SEE. AND THE AMENDMENTS. AND THAT'S ALL SAID. >> RIGHT, BUT I WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT RULE IS. IF IT'S THE SAME ONE IS I THINK IT'S FAIR QUESTION. THANK YOU, SENATOR. MAKE ONE MADAM CHAIR. >> SENATOR ABLE OR SO THE WAY THAT THE LANGUAGE IS CONSTRUCTED IN THE BILL PREVIOUSLY WAS UNCLEAR. AND SO THE DEPARTMENT PROVIDED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THERE WAS A COURT RULING THAT OVERRULED THE WAY IN WHICH THIS THAT OVERRULED THE WAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE WROTE IT AND DEEMED IT UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
AND SO THIS LANGUAGE CLARIFIES THAT AND THEN REPEAT AND THEN CAN FORMS THE REST OF STATUTE WITH THE RULE CHANGE. >> MADAM CHAIR, I HOPE IT'S I WOULD. I'M GOING ASK WHEN WE GET TO THE QUERY AND ASK YOU WHAT THAT RULE IS. SO IF SOMEONE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO ME, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT'S ALL STAND DOWN FOR THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AUTHORS OF THE A ONE AMENDMENT. PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> I ANY OPPOSED. THE A ONE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. SENATOR MAY CREATE PLEASE PROCEED WITH YOUR INTRODUCTION. YOU'RE TESTIFIERS. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR MORNING MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I AM PRESENTING TODAY SENATE FILE 70. >> ALSO CALLED THE REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM CODIFICATION ACT. I REALLY WANT TO START WITH SOME FOUNDATION SETTING FIRST FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THAT ABORTION IS SAFE.
IT IS SAFER THAN HAVING A TOOTH EXTRACTED. IT IS SAFER THAN HAVING A COLONOSCOPY AT A COLLECTIVE SURGEON IN THE AUDIENCE. ONE TIME WHEN I SAID THAT, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT ALL 3 PROCEDURES ARE VERY SAFE. ABORTION IS JUST THE SAFEST. MEDICATION, ABORTION, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 60% OF ABORTIONS AND MINNESOTA IS SAFER THAN OVER-THE-COUNTER TYLENOL MEDICATION. ABORTION AND ABORTION ITSELF IS 14 TIMES SAFER THAN GIVING BIRTH. SECOND, I WANT TO NOTE THAT ABORTION IS VERY COMMON, ROUGHLY ONE IN 4 WOMEN AND PEOPLE WITH FUTURE. I WILL HAVE AN ABORTION IN THEIR LIFETIME. ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF MINNESOTANS WHO HAVE ABORTIONS ARE ALREADY PARENTS. AND I REALLY WANT TO REPEAT THAT AGAIN. TWO-THIRDS OF MINNESOTANS WHO HAVE ABORTIONS ARE ALREADY PARENTS, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND DEEPLY PREGNANCY AND FAMILY MEANS TO THEM. ABOUT 95% OF ABORTIONS IN MINNESOTA HAPPENED IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER.
MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ABORTIONS ARE PARTNERED OR MARRIED AND MAKE THEIR DECISIONS TO HAVE ABORTIONS WITH THOSE PARTNERS, LOVED ONES AND THEIR FAMILIES. 3RD AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, ABORTION IS HEALTHCARE. ABORTION IS PART OF PREGNANCY CARE, EVERY PREGNANT PERSON THAT DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE FULL SPECTRUM OF PREGNANCY CARE, INCLUDING ABORTION CARE IS IN MORE DANGER. RESEARCHERS HAVE FOUND THAT IF ABORTION IS BANNED THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, THE OVERALL NUMBER OF MATERNAL DEATHS WOULD RISE BY 24%. THE NUMBER IS EVEN WORSE FOR BLACK AMERICANS LIKE MYSELF, WHOSE DEATHS WOULD RISE BY 39%. STATES THAT HAVE BANNED OR SEVERELY LIMITED ACCESS TO ABORTION HAVE HIGHER RATES OF MATERNAL MORTALITY AND MORBIDITY HIGH RATES OF POVERTY AND WORSENING ECONOMIC INSECURITY. AMONG FAMILIES. THIS IS PARTICULARLY RELEVANT TO US IN THIS ROOM BECAUSE EVERY STATE SURROUNDING MINNESOTA HAS EITHER BANNED OR PLANS TO BAN ABORTION.
THIS INCLUDES IOWA, NORTH DAKOTA, SOUTH DAKOTA, AND EVEN OUR NEIGHBORS, WISCONSIN. WE'RE A STATE LAW FROM 18. 49 BANNING ABORTION SNAPPED INTO EFFECT WITH THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V WADE THIS PAST SUMMER. SAFE AS ABORTION OR ABORTION IS SAFE. EXCUSE ME, IT IS COMMON AND IT IS HEALTH CARE. BUT FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN A MOVEMENT TO BAN ABORTION THROUGH STATE LEGISLATURES. AND YES, THIS IS INVOLVED OUTRIGHT ABORTION BAN LAWS, BUT IT IS MORE COMMONLY INVOLVES THINGS THAT CRIMINALIZE DOCTORS LIKE THREATENING THEM WITH FELONY PENALTIES AND JAIL TIME FOR NOT REPORTING THE AGE RACE AND INCOME LEVEL OF THEIR PATIENTS TO THE STATE GOVERNMENT ARE THINGS THAT FORCED PATIENTS TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO ACCESS BASIC HEALTH CARE, LIKE REQUIRING PATIENTS TO MAKE EXTRA MEDICALLY UNNECESSARY APPOINTMENTS BEFORE THEY CAN GET THE CARE THAT THEY NEED OR HAVING THE GOVERNMENT PUT ITS THUMB ON THE SCALE IN FAVOR OF ONE PREGNANCY OUTCOME OVER THE OTHER BY FORCING DOCTORS TO READ SCRIPTS TO PATIENTS FILLED WITH MEDICAL MISINFORMATION.
THAT CAN SCARE THEM BREAK. TRUST. MEMBERS. THERE IS NO OTHER HEALTHCARE PROCEDURE THAT IS TREATED IN LAW LIKE ABORTION IS. BUT ALSO FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS AND 3 SEPARATE COURT CASES, MINNESOTA COURTS HAVE REPEATEDLY FOUND ABORTION RESTRICTIONS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND HAVE A HAVE AFFIRMED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. THAT MINNESOTANS HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO MAKE PRIVATE DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER AND WHEN TO BECOME APPARENT WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT INTERFERING OR TRYING TO SWAY THEM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SENATE 70 REPEALS THESE UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS FROM OUR LEGISLATIVE CODE AND ELIMINATE OUTDATED AND HARMFUL LAWS THAT ARE STILL ON OUR BOOKS. CINEPHILES 70 RESTORES PATIENT'S ABILITY TO HAVE THEIR CARE DIRECTED BY THEIR MEDICAL NEEDS. NOT THE OPINIONS OF POLITICIANS. SENATE 70 REMOVES LANGUAGE THAT IN A POST-ROE AMERICA CAUSES CONFUSION AMONGST PROVIDERS FORCING THEM TO CONSULT LAWYERS BEFORE PROVIDING MAKES BASIC MEDICAL CARE. THE DECISION OF WHETHER WHEN AND HOW TO BECOME A PARENT TO START GROWER.
FINALIZE YOUR FAMILY AS ONE OF THE MOST DEEPLY PERSONAL DECISIONS ANY OF US WILL MAKE IN OUR LIFETIME. AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE MIGHT INDIVIDUALLY DECIDE FOR OURSELVES, THE DECISION OF WHETHER AND WHEN TO BECOME APPARENT BELONGSO EACH INDIVIDUAL. MINNESOTAN AND NOT MEMBERS OF THIS CHAMBER. AND THAT'SHY I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THE SENATE FILE 70. THANK YOU. THANK U. SENATOR Y WE HAVI HAVE 3 TESTOR LISTED AS HERE THE FIRST TEST FOR JUST BRAVERMAN, I BELIEVE IS IN PERSON.
>> AND THEN WE HAVE TESTIFIERS ON ZOOM. SWELCOME TO THE MMITTEE AND SIGN IO THE SIGN IN SHEET WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE. BUYOU CAN BEGIN YOUR TESTONY, PLEASE. NO SLEEP. AND EY'RE JUST. THE PAGES HAVE A SEAT, BUT YOUCAN PROCEED. PLEASETATE YOUR NAME F THE RECORD IN AND BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIRMEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE,MY NAME IS JESS BRAVERMAAND AND THE LEGAL DIRECTOR AT GENDER JUSTICE. A LEGAL AND POLICY ADVOCY NONPFIT. >> DEDICATED TADVANCING GENDER EQUITY ROUGH T LAW. I'M HE TODAY TO DISCUSS TH LEGAL IMRTANCE, REPEALING THUNCONSTITUTIONAL AND HARMFUL ABORTION RTRICTIONS TH REMAIN ON THE BOOKSN NNESOTA. I19 GENDER JUSTICE FILED LAUIT ON HALF OF TO HEAH CARE PROVIDERS. THE FIRST UNITARIAN CIETY OF MINNEAPIS AND OUR JUSTICE MINNESOTA'ABORTION FUND CHALLENNG ABORTION RESTRICTIONSN THE STATE. ST JULY, ONLY 2 WEE TER THE FALL OF ROE V WADE, A JUDGE DETERMINED TSE RESTCTIONS WERE UNNSTITUTIONAL AND PERMANENTLY OCKED THEIR ENFORCEMENT.THE RULING HADN IMMEDIE POSITI IMPACT ON PROVIDERS, MINNETAN SEEKING ABORTION AND PEOP FROM THE UPPER MIDWEST AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO VE LOST MEANINGF ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVEEAH CARE.
PASSG SF 70, WE GETHES LA OFF OUR BOOKS FOR GD. IT IS A NESSARY STEP TO PROTECT MINNOTANS FROM POTENTIAL FUREEGISLATIVE AND JUCIAL ACTION AIMED AT BANNING OR RTRICTING ABORTION. LEAVING UNCONSTITUTIAL STATE ALSO CREATES DANGEROULEGAL AMGUITY FORROVIDERS AND PATIENTS ITHSTATE. ONLY HA TO OOK AT OUR NEIGHRS IN NTH DAKOTA AND WISCOIN WERELL ABORTION CA HAS CEASED TOEEHE EFFECTSOF OLD LAWS COMINBA TO SOW CHAOS AND COUSN. AMG TH HAFUL AND UNCONSTITUON AN-ABOION WSF 70 WOULD REMOVE FM MIESOTA STATE LAW REQUIREMENT ATDOCTS LIR STATE MANDED ANTIBORTION PROPAGDA2 PAENTS SEEKING ABORTION CARE, A MANDOR24 HOUR ITING PERIOD FOR PATIEN. ASE THAT NESSARILY PROHIBITED ADVANCED PRTI, REGISTERED NURS D OTHER TRAID,ICENSED QUIFIED PRESSIONALS OMROVIDING ABORTION CARE.
A W REIRING MIRS SEEKINGBORTN RE TO NOTIFY THARENTS, EV IF TH HAVNORELAONIP AABUSIVE RETIONIP WI THE PARENT. AAW NDATG L TISSUE RULNG OMN ABORTIONO MISCRIE TO BE RIEDR CRAT. REGARDLE OF THE BELIEFS WISS THE PARENT. AAWREQUIRG ABORTI PVIDERS TO LLECT ANREPORT TO THE STEAN HATIVE LIST PSONA DEILS ABOUT ABORTION PATIENTS EGREGIOUS INVASIONF IVACY BY THE STATE.WENOAT THERE'S IMMENSE PPT FOR ABORTION ACCE MNESOTA, DECEMB 2022. LLFOD THAT8%OF MINNOTS SUPPORT E PEAL OFAWS ATESTRICT ACSS TO ARTN. UR HISTORY AND OUR LU HAVE PREPARED TO EPORWARD ANDE BEACON OF CPAION, CARE AND PERSON FEDOM FOR ALL NNESOTANS AND PELEEEKING ORTION CAR URGE YOU TO PASS SF . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. XTWE WILL GO TO THE ST. E OF THE TT FIRES >> DOCTOR COLEHASEN. >> ITHANK YOU. ENGND AND MBERS OF THE COMTT FOR THE OPPORTUNITTOPEAK TOY. COLOGNE, OAKLANCHE, NOT A PRACTICINGAMY PHICN IN MINNEAPOS.ALL RIGHT. N PROVIDE FULL SPECTRUMREPRODTI HEALTH RE TO PATIENTSF ALAGES AND ALSOTHE ASSOCIATEEDAL DIRECT OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD, RTH CENTRAL STATES AND PROUD TO PVIDE ABTION CARE TO MY PATIENTS ALONWITH A BRD SPTRUM OF OTHER ESSENTL ALTH CARE SERVICES.
MY PATIEN COMTO THEIR APPOINTMEN FM ALL WALKS OF FE. MANY HAVE QUESTIONAND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF TM UQUE. SOME ARE EVEN TNSHAT I FOLLOWED SINCE TH WERE BABIES OR CHILDRENAS A TSTED ADULT IN THEIR LIVESI HAD TEEN SEEK ADVICE EN THEY FIND OUT THEY'RPREGNANT. SOME CE WITH THE PARTS AND SOME WITHOUT. SOMHAVEONTINUED THEIR PREGNANC AND SOME HAVE ENDED THEIR PRNANC BUT I CAN ATTE TO IS THATHEY SEEKNFORMATION FR TRUSTED INDIVIALS, INCLUDING THEIR HETHCA PROVIDER. AND WE SHOULDE AB TO HELP THAT WITHOUT ADNG BARRIERS TO THEIR CA. REPE OF THE ATE'S RESTRICTE LIES HAS LIFTED A HUGE BURD. FOR MANY PEOPLE SEEKING ABORTION, BU PAICULARLY FOR THE USEHAT I WORK WI ANHEALTH CE WE ARE TRAINED TOO TO ASSESS DECISION-MAKING CAPACITY F ALL SOS OF MEDIL EATMENTS.
IN FT, THIS IS SOTHING I DO EVE DAY EVERY CLICAL ENCOUNTER. IT'S TRUE FOR ADULTS, NOT JU TEENS.I HAVE ALWAYS BE USTED IN MY ABILITY TO DERMINE IF A YOUNG PERSON IS ABLE TO CIDE TO CONTINUE A PREGNANCY.I SHOULD ALSO BE TRUSTED IN MY ABILITY TO DETERMINE IF THEY' ABLE TO DECIDE TO END A PREGNANCY. TO SUPPORT ALL PATIENTS. WE MUST REMOVE THESE RESTRICTIVE ANTI-ABORTION LIES THAT HA BEEN FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
IF WE DON'T, THESE RESTRICTIVE REMAIN A POTENTIAL THREATO ABORTION RIGHTS AND ACCESS IN THE FUTURE. I URGE YOU TO PLEASE SUPPORT SAID FILE . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, DOCTOR JASON. OUR NEXT TESTIFIER IS EMILYICHTER. >> AND SHE'S EVER TESTIFIER AND WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MADAM CHAIR, MY NAME IS EMILY RICHTER AND A SECOND TRIMESTER ABORTIONS SAVED MY LIFE. IN MARCH OF 2020, I WAS 19 WEEKS PREGNANT WHEN WE RECEIVED THE GOT NEWS THAT OUR BABY GIRL WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A SEVERE GENERAL TO DEFECT CALLED ANENCEPHALY FOR WHICH THERE IS NO CURE AND THE PROGNOSIS IS 100% FATAL DUE TO THE SEVERITY OF OUR CASE.
MY RISK FOR INFECTION AND HEMORRHAGING WAS HIGH. INDUCING LABOR TO DELIVER A BABY GIRL WHICH ALSO WOULD HAVE BEEN CATEGORIZED AS ELECTIVE ABORTION UNDER CURRENT LAW WAS NOT AN OPTION. WE WERE LEFT WITH THE IMPOSSIBLE DECISION TO TERMINATE A PREGNANCY. WE SO VERY MUCH WANTED IT. WHILE THE VAST MAJORITY OF ABORTIONS OCCUR IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER ARES OCCURRED IN THE SECOND AS TOO MANY ABORTIONS FOR FETAL ANOMALIES THAT OFTEN GO UNDETECTED EARLIER IN PREGNANCY. MINNESOTA MINNESOTA LAW REQUIRED ME TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING. TRAUMATIZING NEXT STEPS BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE MEDICAL CARE. I REQUIRED AN ABORTION AT 19 AND-A-HALF WEEKS PREGNANT. A 24 HOUR WAITING, PERIOD AFTER FINDING OUT THAT OUR BABY GIRL WAS INCOMPATIBLE WITH LIFE OUTSIDE THE WOMB. I HAVE TO WAIT. 24 HOURS TO THINK ABOUT MY DECISION AND CONSIDER ALL MY OPTIONS OF WHICH THERE WERE NOT BEFORE I LEGALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SCHEDULE MY ABORTION, WHICH DID NOTHING MORE THAN DELAYED MEDICAL CARE WHILE MY RISK OF INFECTION AND SEPSIS INCREASED. I WAS ALSO SUBJECTED TO STATE-DIRECTED COUNSELING. I HAD READ ALOUD TO ME AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY SIGNED A FORM WITH MEDICALLY INACCURATE INFORMATION. THAT WAS DESIGNED TO DISSUADE ME FROM UNDERGOING THE ABORTION.
AND FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. NOT ONLY DID HEARING THIS INFORMATION FROM I'LL BE A TRUSTED SOURCE DEEP IN THE PAIN OF OUR BABIES TERMINAL DIAGNOSIS, IT PLACED SHAME AND POLITICIZE THE MEDICAL CARE. I NEED IT TO SURVIVE. AND WHILE THIS IS JUST ARCED FAMILY STORY OF ABORTION, THE STORIES ARE SO IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY NOW AND ESPECIALLY AS COMPREHENSIVE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ARE THREATENED. THESE ARE STORIES OF OUR FRIENDS, FAMILY, NEIGHBORS AND LOVED ONES.
PEOPLE WHO PARTIAL MISCARRIAGES. THOSE WITH PREGNANCIES, SURVIVORS OF INCEST AND RAPE. OTHERS FIGHTING INVISIBLE BATTLES. WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AND PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO CARRIED BABIES WITH SEVERE BIRTH DEFECTS OFTEN INCOMPATIBLE WITH LIFE. AND LIKE ALL OF US HERE, THEY'RE MINNESOTANS. I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON SF 70. THANK YOU. >> THANK THAT ENDS THE INITIAL PART OF OUR HEARING WITH THE AUTHORS TESTIMONY AND NOW WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY. WE HAVE WE WILL DO AS WE DID IN THE FIRST HEARING. WE HAVE THE TESTIFIERS WHO ARE ARE TESTIFYING REMOTELY COMPLETE THEIR TESTIMONY FIRST AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS THE FIRST OF THE TESTIFIERS ON ZOOM RACHEL. D***. RACHEL, WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND BEGAN. THANK YOU. I SHOULD TO SAY BEFORE YOU START, I'M SORRY, TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO 2 MINUTES.
WE WILL BE TIMING. THE TESTIMONY AND WHEN THE TIMER GOES WE NEED HAVE YOU FINISH YOUR THOUGHT. AND AND THAT'S JUST ME. SENATOR, THANK JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S CUSTOMARY THAT YOU GET TO SET THAT TIME. BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A BILL WITH 57 SECTIONS OF STATUTE THAT ARE JUST ARE BEING REMOVED IT'S HARD TO TOUCH ON A GOOD SECTION. A SHARE OF THOSE IN 2 MINUTES. SO >> I WOULD JUST ASK THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE. A LITTLE EASIER ON HIM. AND BUT I FULLY RESPECTED. IT'S YOUR CHOICE. WE GOT TO GET THROUGH THE THE HEARING AND WE GET TIME RESTRAINTS THERE. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD TO LET PEOPLE SAY WHAT. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS, SENATOR AT CAMP.
WE WILL BE LIMITING TESTIMONY TO TO 2 MINUTES. IT'S NOT. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE TO TALK ABOUT ALL SECTIONS OF THE BILL IN 2 MINUTES. BUT THE PUBLIC WAS NOTIFIED THAT IF THEY WANTED TO TESTIFY, THAT THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO 2 MINUTES. AND HOW WE WILL DO IT. WE DID IT THAT WAY SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A LARGE NUMBER TESTIFIERS AND ALSO FIT WITHIN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE. WE TO OUR HEARING BACK SO RICH, SO YOU CAN PROCEED WITH YOUR TESTIMONY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM GOOD MORNING TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS RACHEL DECK AND I'M A GRADUATE STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF A 70 THIS BILL FEELS THE PROMISES UP THE PRO ACT, ANY TANGIBLE, VALUABLE AND DECISIVE WAY. AND IT ALSO BRINGS ARE LOCKED INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE COURT'S DECISION AND DO VERSUS MINNESOTA THIS SUMMER. I SIGNED UP TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY BECAUSE I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE RULES AND TRYING EXIST VERSION OF THE STATUTE INSTEAD OF BEING BASED ON BEST MEDICAL PRACTICES, COMPASSION AND RESPECT FOR WOMEN ME THEY'RE BASED ON LIES, PATERNALISM AND MISOGYNY. THERE ARE SOME TRANSLATIONS THE 24 HOUR WAITING PERIOD IS THAT WE THINK WOMEN ARE FLIGHTY AND WILL PROBABLY CHANGE THEIR MINDS TO FORCE THEM TO STOP AND REFLECT.
TONIGHT. MINNESOTA CARE COVERAGE IS THAT WE THINK WOMEN SHOULD BE FINANCIALLY PUNISHED FOR BEING IRRESPONSIBLE. THE ROLE THAT ABORTIONS AFTER THE FIRST TRIMESTER MUST BE PERFORMED IN HOSPITALS MEANS THAT WE WANT TO PORTRAY PORTIONS OF UNSAFE EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT THE CHANGES PROPOSED NSA 70. WE'LL BRING OUR STATE ABORTION POLICY INTO THE 21ST CENTURY. WE CANNOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE THAT HAS HAPPENED IN WISCONSIN WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER ABORTION RESTRICTIONS. THAT DATE BACK TO 18 49 AND WOULD NEVER APPEALED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE. I UNDERSTAND IT FOR SOME PEOPLE. THE EXISTING LAW AND IMPLEMENTATIONS MAY SEEM FAIR OR MODERATE. IT IS REALLY EASY TO PASS RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION UNTIL YOU STOP AND CONSIDER THE REALITIES THAT MAKE ABORTION NECESSARY.
ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS IN COLLEGE GOT PREGNANT, EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD AN IUD HAVE MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO'VE SUFFERED MISCARRIAGES AND NEEDED HEALTH CARE THAT IS OFTEN PLACED UNDER THE A BOOK ABOUT HER ABORTION. BY SUPPORTING THIS BILL, YOU'RE PLACING PERSONAL MEDICAL CHOICE IS BACK IN THE HANDS OF THE INDIVIDUAL KNOWS WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR BODY AND THEIR LIFE. AND LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE LEGISLATORS HERE TODAY AND PREPARE TO VOTE. I UNDERSTAND THIS WORK IS HARD AND POLITICALLY COSTLY, BUT THE PRO-CHOICE MAJORITY OF MINNESOTA VOTERS HAS YOUR BACK. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SAFE. >> THANK YOU. AND NEXT, WE WILL HAVE A LORRY CASEY. >> I'D LIKE TO THANK CHAIR WITH LONDON, THE COMMITTEE FOR HEARING MY TESTIMONY. MY NAME IS LORI CASEY AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. WE HEALTH CLINIC IN DULUTH, MINNESOTA. I'M HERE TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR SENATE FILE. 70 ABORTIONS ARE A NECESSARY PART OF REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE AND IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE ENSURE MINNESOTA REMAINS A STATE WHERE EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO SAFE AND LEGAL ABORTION.
I'VE SPENT OVER 40 YEARS WORK AT THE CLINIC IN A VARIETY OF ROLES. THE 2 PARENT NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT IS ANOTHER BARRIER CREATED TO LIMIT ACCESS TO ABORTION. IN MY EXPERIENCE, WORKING WITH MINORS IN NEED OF ABORTION CARE. MINERS COME TO HEALTH CLINIC, HAVING THOUGHTFUL AND INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER TO OBTAIN AN ABORTION AND WHETHER OR NOT TO NOTIFY ONE PARENT. BOTH PARENTS ARE USED JUDICIAL BYPASS, FORCING MINORS TO INVOLVE ONE OR BOTH PARENTS DOES NOT HELP MINERS MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE RIGHT FOR THEM. MOST MINERS I HAVE WORKED OUT DISCUSSED DECISION WITH THE TRUSTED ADOPT BEFORE COMING TO HEALTH CLINIC. MINERS DECIDE HAVE ABORTIONS FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. THIS SIMPLY MAY NOT BE READY AT THAT POINT OF THEIR LIFES TO GIVE BIRTH TO A CHILD PREGNANCY AND CHILDBIRTH MAY POSE BARRIERS TO THEIR EDUCATIONAL ASPIRATIONS. THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT TO RAISE A CHILD OR THEY MAY RISK REJECTION AND OTHER CONSEQUENCES FROM THEIR FAMILY. THERE ARE MANY REASONS MINORS CANNOT OR CHOOSE NOT TO NOTIFY ONE OR BOTH PARENTS.
MINERS SOMETIMES HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH OF THEIR PARENTS AND HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT ABSENT PARENT AS SOME MINOR, SOME GOOD REASON TO BELIEVE THEIR PARENTS WILL RESPOND NEGATIVELY TO AN UNPLANNED PREGNANCIES, PUTTING THEM AT A MOTION OR SOMETIMES PHYSICAL RISK. THE 2 PARENT NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT, INCLUDING THE JUDICIAL BYPASS PROCESS CAUSES PATIENTS TO EXPERIENCE STARTS AND DELAYS IN OBTAINING ABORTION CARE. INDIVIDUALS MUST BE FREE TO MAKE THEIR OWN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE DECISIONS WE NEED TO REMOVE THESE HARMFUL LAWS OFF THE BOOKS. SENATE FILE 70 IS THE FIRST STEP TO PROTECTING AND EXPANDING ABORTION CARE IN MINNESOTA. PLEASE SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO >> THANK YOU. AND REMAINING TEST FOR REMOTELY IS AMY HAGSTROM MILLER. INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY. >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS AMY HAGSTROM MILLER AND I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF WHOLE WOMAN'S HEALTH AND WHOLE WOMAN'S HEALTH ALLIANCE.
AND I'M A PROUD NATIVE MINNESOTAN BORN IN THE HOSPITAL, GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL IN STILL WATER AND ALUMNI HAVE MCALLISTER COLLEGE. I HAVE OPERATED A CLINIC IN MINNESOTA FOR OVER 12 YEARS. AND I HAVE OVER 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE AS AN ABORTION PROVIDER IN MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES IN THE IN THE USA AND I AM AN ABORTION PROVIDER BECAUSE OF THE VALUES THAT I LEARNED IN MINNESOTA ABOUT RESPECT AND KINDNESS AND COMPASSION AND PROVIDING EXCELLENT HEALTH CARE TO PEOPLE NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME FROM, A MINNESOTA NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO BE A BEACON OF HOPE AND LEADER IN MEDICAL CARE IN THE UPPER MIDWEST AND FOLLOWING THE PATHS OF SOME OF THE OTHER STATES IN THE UPPER MIDWEST THAT HAVE CODIFIED ROE AND HAVE MADE ACCESS TO SAFE ABORTION SECURE.
LET ME TELL YOU, IN OUR CLINIC SINCE THIS LAWSUIT WAS ONE WHAT HAS CHANGED FOR OUR ABILITY TO SERVE OUR PATIENTS MORE EFFECTIVELY WERE QUICKLY MORE THOROUGHLY HAVING 24 HOUR WAITING PERIOD, KNOCKED DOWN, HAS MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE FOR OUR PATIENTS TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS ESSENTIAL MEDICAL CARE SOON. EARLIER IN THEIR PREGNANCY AND WITHOUT DELAY, KNOCKING DOWN THE STATE, MANDATED REQUIRED INFORMATION HAS ALLOWED OUR PHYSICIANS TO PRACTICE TO THE FULL SCOPE OF THEIR TRAINING WITHOUT BEING TOLD BY THE LEGISLATURE WHAT TO SAY AND PRESENT MEDICALLY INACCURATE INFORMATION LIKE STATES LIKE TEXAS AND ALABAMA AND MISSISSIPPI. THE SCRIPT THAT MINNESOTANS WORK AND WHERE I'M REQUIRED TO DELIVER WAS RIDDLED WITH MEDICAL INACCURACIES AND NOW THE DOCTORS ARE ABLE TO CONSULT WITH THEIR PATIENTS AS PER THEIR MEDICAL TRAINING.
AND IT IS MUCH MORE RESPECTFUL AND MUCH MORE SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE AND EVIDENCE IN THIS TIME IN THIS COUNTRY AS WE HAVE SEEN ACCESS TO SAFE ABORTION DWINDLE IN MULTIPLE PLACES, IT'S TIME FOR MINNESOTA TO MAINTAIN ITS LEADERSHIP AND PROVIDE SAFE CARE TO EVERYBODY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW WE WILL GO TO IN-PERSON TESTIMONY. I WOULD LIKE TO 3 PEOPLE TO COME UP AT A TIME IF YOU CAN, PLEASE SIGN. AND WHEN YOU ARE AT THE TEST FIRST THE AFTER YOU TESTIFY, PLEASE, YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO RETURN TO YOUR SEAT OR YOU CAN REMAIN AT THE TABLE UNTIL THE 3RD PERSON IS COMPLETED. THEIR TESTIMONY EITHER WAY IS FINE. THE TESTIMONY WILL BE LIMITED TO 2 MINUTES AND I WILL ASK YOU TO FINISH YOUR THOUGHT WHEN THE ALARM GOES OFF AND THEN YOU NEED TO DO IS TO STOP YOUR REMARKS.
THE FIRST THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FORWARD WOULD SHERRY LIFTS TIM MILLER AND SUSAN, THE POSE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SHERRY. LET'S CURRENTLY LIVE IN MINNESOTA. I'M HERE TODAY TO BE A VOICE FOR THE BABIES THAT ARE CRYING OUT TODAY. >> YESTERDAY AND THE ONES TOMORROW TO LIVE. I'M PROUD THAT I LIVED IN MINNESOTA AND TODAY I'M GRIEVED AND HORRIFIED TO HEAR THAT THE BUILD THAT REMOVES ALL ACCOUNTABILITY AND REPORTING FROM THESE ABORTION CLINICS, THIS BILL FOR ABORTION UP TO BIRTH AND REPEALING OUR CURRENT BILLS ARE TAKING AWAY OUR RIGHTS AND THE CONSTITUTION THAT OUR FAMILIES FOUGHT FOR AND DIED FOR.
THESE BILLS ARE NOTHING BUT WE COULD. AND BOMB A NATION TO OUR STATE, TO OUR NATION AND TO OUR GOD. I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE VERY GOOD REASONS WHY ALL THESE BOWLS. ARE WRITTEN TO PICK TO TO LIGHT. IT. AND LET ME REMIND YOU WHAT THIS ONE, THE A RIGHT TO LIFE BILL. IS BECAUSE BABIES HAVE BEEN BORN ALIVE DURING AN ABORTION AND THEY TO HAVE MEDICAL MEDICAL HELP BECAUSE THEY'RE ALIVE. BUT IT'S A HUMAN AND YOU ARE VOTING DO NOTHING BUT A MURDER THEM. YOU'RE GOING TO MURDER LIVING BABIES. AND GIVE THE ECONOMY AB ANY KIND OF ABILITY TO THESE CLINICS. IT IS THAT RIGHT OF THESE BABIES BECAUSE THEY ARE A HUMAN BEING. AND OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS LIFE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL AND I MEAN, IT'S FOR IT DOESN'T SAY IT ELIMINATES BABIES.
PASSING. THIS BILL GIVES NO KIND OF ABILITY THAT TO THE CLINICS AND THE FEW HAVE ANY GODLY MORALS AND UNDERSTAND THE AYES HAVE DIED IN THE BIBLE. YOU MUST VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU. THANK NEXT TESTIFIER TIM MILLER. >> I'M SORRY. YOU SAID TIM KNOW I WAS LESS THAN I WAS WAITING FOR HER TO SPEAK. APOLOGIZE. MADAM CHAIR AND MY NAME IS TIM MILLER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PLANNED ACTION, A SISTER ORGANIZATION, PRO-LIFE ACTION MINISTRIES. MEMBERS, THE CULTURE OF DEATH. THAT IS SENATE FILE. ONE IS PROVEN OUT HERE AND 7 FILE SENT A FILE 70. SENATE. IF I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS WHICH DON'T EXIST IN THE CONSTITUTION TO TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A WOMAN, THIS GOES WELL BEYOND THAT.
IT COULD MEAN HUGE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A POWER GRAB. AND AS A MONEY GRAB REPEATING, REPEALING THE BORN ALIVE ACT, WHICH I WAS AN AUTHOR OF CAN BE DESCRIBED AS NOTHING OTHER THAN KILLING A CHILD. NOW THE DEFINITION OF OF THE PEOPLE FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND OTHER PEOPLE LIKE THAT THEMSELVES. SAME WANT A HUMAN BECOMES A HUMAN. THAT CHILD IS ALIVE. AS A HUMAN BY THEIR OWN DEFINITION. AND YET WHILE THEY ARE LOOKING. FOR THEIR MOTHER FURTHER COMFORT FOR THEIR WARRANT FOR SOMEONE TO CARE FOR THEM. THEY'RE BEING LEFT ON THE TABLE TO DIE WITH REPORTS AS MUCH AS 8 HOURS THEY'RE LEFT THERE TO DIE. YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE ABORTION FOR ALL FINE.
BUT WRITE A BILL THAT TALKS ABOUT ADOPTION OR TALKS ABOUT A FOSTER CARE. THAT GOING AFTER THE BORN ALIVE ACT PROVES THE INTENT OF ALL OF THIS STUFF. AND THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE THIS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT EVERY SENATOR IN THIS ROOM. VOTES AGAINST VOTE AGAINST THIS BILL, VOTE AGAINST IT ON THE SENATE FLOOR THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT. GOD IN A WAY THAT WAS PASSIONATE. I WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR AND SENSIBLE. THERE IS A GOD OF THIS UNIVERSE AND HIS POWER IS NOT BASED OFF OF YOUR BELIEF THAT HE EXISTS. HE IS WATCHING. HE IS GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR VOTE HERE AND ON THE SENATE FLOOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. >> THANK AND SUSAN LOPEZ, THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I AM SPEAKING S US 70 AND I IN NO WAY DO WE WANT TO BE LITTLE IT? EXTREME CASES WE'RE HERE TO OFFER A VOICE OF MERCY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE FACING DECISIONS IN STAND ALONGSIDE THEM. BUT I STAND HERE TODAY TO SPEAK FROM THE WORD OF GOD FOR THE WATER THAT IS LIVING AN ACTIVE SHARPER THAN ANY 2 AGENTS OR DISCERNING. THE THOUGHTS AND INTENTIONS OF THE HEART. NO FEATURES HIDDEN FROM HIS SIGHTS. BUT ALL OF US ARE NAKED AND EXPOSED TO THE EYES OF HIM TO HOME.
WE MUST GIVE AN ACCOUNT. THE PROPHET, JEREMIAH SAYS HEAR THE WORDS OF THE LORD. THE PEOPLE HAVE FORSAKEN ME AND HAVE IN THIS PLACE BY MAKING OFFERINGS IN THE 2 OTHER GUYS BECAUSE WE HAVE FILLED THIS PLACE WITH THE BLOOD OF INNOCENCE, WHICH I DID NOT COMMANDER DECREE, NOR DID IT COME INTO MY MIND. A PORTION SPILLS, THE BLOOD OF INNOCENCE.
THE ONLY INNOCENT BLOOD THE GOD EVER MEANT TO BE SAID OF THE SIDE OF HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST TO ATONE FOR SINS. GOD DID NOT EVER CONDONE THE SHUTTING OF THE BLOOD OF INNOCENCE. JIM, I ALSO SAYS THEY BUILT THE HIGH PLACES OF ALL TO OFFER UP THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO MOLAK. SO I DID NOT COME NOR DID IT ENTER INTO MY MIND THAT THEY SHOULD DO THIS ABOMINATION. THAT'S ALMOST SAYS CAN WE COULD RULERS THE ALLIED WITH YOU. THOSE WHO FRAME INJUSTICE BY STATUTE, THE BAND TOGETHER AGAINST THE LIFE OF THE RIGHTEOUS AND CONDEMN THE INNOCENT TO DEATH. AND SO I SAY TO THE SALT OR A BLOOD SACRIFICE THAT IS ABORTION. THE BUTE CUE SPIRIT OF MOLOKAI WANTS TO RISE WITH FURY IN MINNESOTA. WE CAST ON YOUR ALTARS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, THE ALMIGHTY GOD AND IT IS TO HIM JESUS CHRIST, THE ONE WHO HATES THE SHEDDING OF INNOCENT BLOOD THAT YOU WE'LL PROVE THIS BLOOD ALTER TO MY LUCK.
FREIN INJUSTICE BY YOUR STATUTES. WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE ACCOUNT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE NEXT 3 AN ERA MUHAMMAD. >> THERESA COLETTE AND ALINA, THE HALF, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. YOUR NAME? INCORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR INFORMING ME. THEN. HANNAH STEIN COULD ALSO COME UP. AND 2, 3, SAY YOU CAN PROCEED. ONE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MADAM CHAIR, MADAM VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY AGAINST SENATE FILE 70 IN MY BRIEF TIME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE WHAT ARE ESSENTIALLY THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTIONS OF THE WRITTEN TESTIMONY THAT ARE NOW BEING DISTRIBUTED TO YOU. I WAS UNABLE TO BE PRESENT WHEN ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES TESTIFIED REGARDING THE EXTENT AND THE BASIS OF THE RULING VERSUS GOMEZ.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THE MS COMMUNICATION THAT OCCURRED IN THE HOUSE COMMITTEE DID NOT OCCUR HERE. THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT THE RAMSEY COUNTY DISTRICT COURT JUDGMENT VERSUS MINNESOTA REGARDING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY, VARIETY OF ABORTION STATUTE IS CURRENTLY ON APPEAL BEFORE THE MINNESOTA COURT OF APPEALS NOT WITHSTANDING ATTEMPTS BY THE PLAINTIFFS AND DEFENDANTS TO GET APPEAL DISMISSED. AND SECOND, THE ON THE AND SECOND. THANK YOU. AND SECONDLY, THIS DISTRICT COURT HAS TAKEN UNDER ADVISEMENT THE PRIX FINAL JUDGMENT MOTION TO INTERVENE. I OFFERS EVIDENCE OF THAT FACT THE FINAL PAGES, MY TESTIMONY THAT IS A COPY OF THE FIRST 5 PAGES OF THE CURRENT DOCKET. I DOWNLOADED IT LAST NIGHT AT 8.15 SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE CASE REMAINS OPEN.
AND I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE FACT THAT THE COURT HAS TAKEN UNDER ADVISEMENT THE MOTION TO INTERVENE ON THE PART OF MOTHERS OFFERING MATERNAL SUPPORT AND THE FACT THAT THE APPEALS COURT HAS DIRECTED THAT THE APPEAL SHELL GO FORWARD IN THIS MATTER, THEREFORE, TO BASE ANY LEGISLATION BASED ON THE CLAIM THAT WAS MADE IN THE HOUSE COMMITTEE. THAT DOE V VERSUS MINNESOTA IS FINAL AND IT AND THE TERMINATED THAT THIS ISSUE WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE AND WOULD ENCOURAGE FUTURE TESTIFIERS ON OTHER MATTERS TO PROVIDE AN INCOMPLETE JUDICIAL AND LEGAL ANALYSIS OF WHERE THE STATUS OF THE PARTICULAR LAW IS. I URGE YOU NOT TO DO THAT. SECONDARILY MINORS AND ADULTS DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY IN THEIR CAPACITY TO MAKE REASONED DECISIONS. BUT STATE AND FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL LAW RECOGNIZES FACT AND PARENT GUIDANCE TO MINORS AFFIRMING THE NATURAL IN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. THE PARENTS TO DIRECT THE MEDICAL CARE OF THEIR MINOR CHILDREN. THANK YOU. I URGE THE REST OF TESTIMONY TO BE READ AND CONSIDERED. I HOPE YOU WILL THAT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SO I I DO NOT NOW IF HANNAH STEIN IS NOT, OH, OKAY.
HANNAH STEIN, OUR RENEE CARLSON AND KATHY BLAZER. YOU CAN GO BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY AND THEN SIGN AN AFTER YOU. COMPLETED. THANK YOU, TOO. THIS MAKES OK. HI, MY NAME'S HANNAH STEIN. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY TODAY. I'M A MINNESOTAN BORN AND BRED RIDICULOUSLY PROUD OF IT. I HAD A VARIETY OF REPRODUCTIVE EXPERIENCES. I HAD ONE ABORTION WHEN I WAS 22 ABSOLUTELY NOT READY TO HAVE A CHILD. I HAD ANOTHER WHEN I WAS 35 AT THAT POINT, I HAD 4 CHILDREN AND YOUNG CHILDREN. ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT HANDLE A 5TH. I'VE ALSO GONE THROUGH 2 ROUNDS OF IVF. I'VE HAD 4 CHILDREN AND I'VE HAD ONE MISCARRIAGE OF A WANTED PREGNANCY. I ALSO RUN AN ABORTION INFORMATION COMMUNITY FOR SEVERAL I'VE HEARD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE STORIES FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE. ALL SITUATIONS. AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT TODAY ARE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM PEOPLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER HAD ABORTIONS, NEVER HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S LIKE HAVE SPOKEN TO FEW IF ANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ABORTIONS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE TELLING YOU THAT ABORTION HURTS WOMEN. THIS BILL IS BAD BECAUSE IT MAKES ABORTION WERE ACCESSIBLE AND LEGALLY SAFE.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO TAKE THE RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION A WAY FOR OUR OWN GOOD. WELL, WE'VE HEARD THAT A LOT HISTORICALLY, RIGHT. WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THIS OR THAT RIGHT. THE RIGHT TO VOTE APPEAR IN COURT ON PROPERTY FOR OUR OWN GOOD. IT WOULD BE BAD FOR US. SO THOSE RIGHTS SHOULD BE TAKEN AWAY. IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT OUR OWN GOOD TO TAKE OUR RIGHTS AWAY. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S ABOUT TODAY. I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT OF MY FAMILY, FRIENDS AND THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM WHO TOLD ME THEIR STORIES THAT WHEN WE HAVE ABORTIONS, WHAT WE OVERWHELMINGLY FEEL IS RELIEF AND GRATITUDE RELIEF THAT WE ARE HEADING THE RIGHT TO MAKE CHOICES ABOUT OUR OWN BODIES AND OUR OWN LIVES AS BASIC AS THAT IS AND GRATITUDE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE IT POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY THE PROVIDERS.
BUT I WANT TO EXTEND THAT GRATITUDE TO EVERYONE HERE TODAY. WHO'S GOING TO BE VOTING? YES ON THIS BILL. AND TO THOSE WHO WILL GOD WILLING BE VOTING? YES. ON THE SENATE FLOOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU ARE MAKING LIFE BETTER FOR MILLIONS OF MINNESOTANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. I'M SO EXCITED FOR YOU. AND I'M SO EXCITED FOR MINNESOTA. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR TESTIFYING AND THEN WE HAVE RUN A CARLSON. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. GOOD MORNING. MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS RENEE CARLSON. I SERVE AS GENERAL COUNSEL FOR TRUE NORTH LEGAL SENATE FILE 70 THE HOW TO MANUAL FOR SENATE FILE ONE GOES FAR BEYOND ANY INTERPRETATION OF THE MINNESOTA SUPREME COURT CASE. JOEY GOMES, IT CANNOT BE STATED THAT THE COURT'S INTERPRETATION OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO ABORTION IN MINNESOTA, NECESSARILY IMPLIES THAT ALL OTHER HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATIONS REGARDING ABORTION ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. YET SENATE FILE 70 PROTECTIONS FOR PREBORN CHILDREN. WOMEN AND YOUNG GIRLS, SENATE FILE 70 REPEALS THE INFANTS BORN ALIVE ACT.
THIS CATTLE AND REPTILES. WE'LL HAVE MORE LEGAL PROTECTIONS IN MINNESOTA. THEN MINNESOTA'S VULNERABLE PREBORN CHILDREN, LEGAL PENALTIES FOR ANIMAL CRUELTY IN MINNESOTA RANGE FOR MISDEMEANOR UP TO A FELONY. WHILE THERE IS NO CRIMINAL PENALTY FOR LEAVING A PREBORN CHILD TO DIE ON A COLD METAL TABLE. SENATE FILE 70 REMOVES CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR THE INTENTIONAL DEATH OF A CHILD RESULTING FROM AN ILLEGAL ABORTION. REGARDLESS OF GESTATION, EVEN IF THAT SEEMS CHILD TO BE THE VICTIM OF A CRIME. BUT FOR THE CAUSE OF DEATH BEING AN ABORTION, SUCH A DOUBLE STANDARD IN THE LAW WILL UNDOUBTEDLY ILLICIT CONFUSION FOR POLICYMAKERS AND THE COURTS, EXISTING HEALTH AND SAFETY PROTECTIONS REGARDING WHO CAN PERFORM AN ABORTION WHERE AN ABORTION CAN BE PERFORMED AND WHETHER THE PARENTS OF THE MINOR CHILD WILL BE INFORMED ABOUT THEIR YOUNG DAUGHTERS, ABORTION IS ALSO BEING REPEALED.
MOREOVER, MINNESOTA TAXPAYERS WILL NOW INCUR THE COST OF PAYING FOR ABORTION ON DEMAND. SOMETHING OPPOSED BY 58% OF AMERICANS BASED ON ELUSIVE CLAIMS ABOUT ACCESS TO ABORTION AND IN SUFFICIENT PUBLIC NOTICE OR DEBATE SENATE FILE 70 INVITES INCONSISTENCY AND CONFUSION OF THE LAW AS WELL AS SEVERE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES. IT IS A RADICAL OVERHAUL OF MINNESOTA'S ABORTION LAWS AND IS OUT OF STEP WITH THE DESIRES OF MOST MINNESOTANS. THANK YOU. ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ MY TESTIMONY SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. AND KATHY BLAZER. WELCOME ADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. I'M HAPPY BLAZER. CO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MINNESOTA CITIZENS CONCERNED FOR LIFE AND I'M TESTIFYING AGAINST SENATOR FILED 70. THIS BILL WOULD APPALLINGLY REPEAL EXISTING LAW WHICH PROTECTS THE LIFE OF AN INFANT BORN ALIVE. >> AFTER AN ATTEMPTED ABORTION MOVING MINNESOTA BACKWARDS FROM A COMMUNITY OF COMPASSION TO ONE OF ACTIVE AND CALLOUS CRUELTY. OUR CURRENT LAW REQUIRES THAT WHEN A BABY IS BORN ALIVE FOLLOWING AN ABORTION, HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS MUST EXERCISE THE SAME DEGREE OF PROFESSIONAL SKILL AND CARE THAT WOULD BE OFFERED TO ANY OTHER CHILD BORN ALIVE AT THE SAME GESTATIONAL AGE.
PROTECTING THESE BORN ALIVE. INFANT'S UNDERSCORES A PREMISE OF FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN COMPASSION. IF A BABY IS BORN ALIVE, EVEN AFTER AN ATTEMPTED ABORTION, HE OR SHE IS A FULL MEMBER OF THE HUMAN COMMUNITY WHO DESERVES OUR COMPASSION AND OUR CARE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER LIVING HUMAN BEING. OUR CURRENT LAW RECOGNIZES THAT ONCE THAT BABY IS DELIVERED ALIVE EVEN AFTER AN ATTEMPTED ABORTION. THERE ARE 2 PATIENTS IN THE ROOM, 2 DISTINCT AND SEPARATE HUMAN BEINGS. MINNESOTA LED THE NATION IN PASSING THIS LAW WITH MANY STATES FOLLOWING SUIT. WHEN THE TRUTH OF LIVE BIRTH ABORTIONS BECAME NATIONAL NEWS. THESE ABORTIONS RESULTED IN SECOND AND 3RD TRIMESTER BABIES BEING DELIVERED ALIVE AND THEN INTENTIONALLY SET ASIDE AND LEFT TO DIE. A SLOW, PAINFUL, LONELY DEATH. THESE BABIES DEAD LIVE FOR HOURS AFTER THEY WERE BORN. THE SUFFERING IN HAR OF THESE BABIES BEING LEFT TO DIE, CRIED OUT FOR LAWS TO PROTECT THEIR LIVES AND FOR ALL OF US TO WORK TO CREATE A SOCIETY OF COMPASSION, NOT BRUTALITY, LESS THE LIE, THE SPREAD THAT THIS NEVER OR RARELY HAPPENS. MINNESOTA'S OWN ABORTION FACILITIES REPORTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THAT 5 BABIES WERE BORN ALIVE AFTER ATTEMPTS TO THE MORNING MONEY.
21 POLICE CHI OR ENERGY TO READ MY TESTIMONY. THE WRITTEN TESTIMONY AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BILL. THANK YOU. LIKE TO CALL UP RIVER AND KELLY CLEMENT. RAY PARKER. AND MARY A MANDATE. AND REVEREND KELLEY COMMENT, YOU CAN WEAKEN AND THEN A CONSIGNED ENOUGH THANK YOUS THAT MY TIME OR >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE RIVER AND KELLY CLEMENT. I SERVED THE FIRST UNITARIAN SOCIETY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WE ARE THE LARGEST HUMANIST CONGREGATION IN THE UNITED STATES. >> AND WE AFFIRM AND PROMOTE THE RIGHTS OF REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE. >> WHICH WERE FIRST ARTICULATED BY BLACK WOMEN. SOME 30 YEARS AGO. THIS IS A HUMAN WHITE RIGHTS FRAMEWORK THAT LIFTS UP 3 IMPORTANT RIGHTS, THE RIGHT TO HAVE CHILDREN THE RIGHT TO NOT HAVE CHILDREN AND THE RIGHT TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN IN SAFE AND HEALTHY ENVIRONMENTS. AND WE AFFIRM THEM AGENCY HUMAN AGENCY OF EACH INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT EMOTIONAL COERCION OR THE RELIGIOUS MANIPULATION THAT WE HAVE HEARD HERE TODAY.
AND THAT IS INHERENT IN THESE BILLS AS THEY ARE WRITTEN. OTHERS WILL SPEAK ELOQUENTLY AND THEY HAVE SPOKEN ELOQUENTLY ABOUT THE NEED TO REPEAL ALL OF THESE BILLS IN TOTAL. I WANT TO SPEAK IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE MANDATE THAT FETAL TISSUE, WHETHER THE RESULT OF ABORTION OR MISCARRIAGE, THE BURIED OR CREMATED. THIS ASSUMES A LEVEL OF PERSON HOOD THAT IS AN AFFRONT TO OUR RELIGIOUS DIGNITY. AND I SAY TO YOU ON BEHALF OF THE MILLIONS OF HUMANISTS IN MINNESOTA THAT IT IS AN AFFRONT TO THEIR BELIEFS THAT PERSON HOOD ATTACHES TO FETAL TISSUE. CERTAINLY ANY PERSON WHO EXPERIENCES A MISCARRIAGE OR HAS AN ABORTION MAY MAKE THE DECISION THAT THEY WISH TO HAVE THAT FETAL TISSUE BURIED OR CREMATED.
BUT IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE STATE TO MANDATE THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL DO SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON DEVOTE. YES, SENATE FILE 70 AND IN PARTICULAR THIS BILL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE. THANK YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE LISTENING QUIETLY. WE ARE NOT EXPRESSING THOUGHTS IN THE AUDIENCE AS TESTIFIERS OR SPEAKING OR AFTER THEY SPEAK.
>> THANK YOU. AND NOW I HAVE OR A PARK OR LEAVE. >> YES, HELLO. MY NAME IS RAY PARKER AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY OBJECT TO THE 70 BILL. >> THIS IS A BAD BILL FOR MINNESOTA. NOT ONLY DOES IT VIOLATE GOD'S LAW, NOT TO MURDER. IT ALSO VIOLATES THE U.S. CONSTITUTION WHERE WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIFE AND IN LEGALIZING NO RULES, NO REGULATIONS OR RESTRICTIONS ON ABORTION.
YOUR SUB ORNING LAWLESSNESS AND OUR STATE WITH NO VALUE FOR HUMAN LIFE AT ANY STAGE OF LIFE. YOU ARE INVITING PEOPLE TO VIOLATE ALL PEOPLE IN ANY WAY. THEY PLEASE. DECRIMINALIZATION OF CERTAIN SEX OFFENSES. ONLY UNDERSCORES THE VIAL NUS OF THIS BILL. THERE IS NO REGULATION OVER LICENSING OF THESE ABORTION CLINICS. AND SO WHO IS TO STOP THE TRAFFICKING OF HARVESTED ORGANS AND OTHER PARTS OF THAT SMALL HUMAN BEAN. LIFE IS PRECIOUS. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO THROW AWAY AND KILL OUR NEXT GENERATION. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY FOR THIS PROCEDURE WHEN SO MANY OBJECT TO. IT'S DEVASTATING AND SO WE CANNOT IT'S A WHO IS WHO IS GOING TO STAND.
BEHIND A REPAIR THE BROKEN. WOMEN WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCEDURE. THE EMOTIONAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL AND PEOPLE THE DAYS WEEKS OR EVEN YEARS LATER HAPPENS. NOTHING IS FREE AND THERE'S A PRICE TO BE PAID FOR EVERY ACTION. SO PLEASE DON'T KNOW. TO THE AS F 70 BILL. THANK YOU. AND NOW A MARRIED >> YES, GOOD MORNING TO ALL OF YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS MARY AMY AT FROM ROCHESTER, MINNESOTA. I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED EVERYTHING IN THIS EXTREMELY RADICAL PRO ACT BILL AND NOW ITS COMPANION BILLS. I WAS HORRIFIED LAST WEEK WHILE LISTENING TO SEVERAL HEARINGS IN THE HOUSE AND THE CALLOUSNESS OF THOSE WHO VOTED AGAINST GIVING PAIN MEDICATION, THE BABY SUFFERING INDESCRIBABLE PAIN AS THEY ARE BEING MURDERED IN THEIR MOTHERS.
WOMBS WAS IT WAS SO SHOCKING AND APPALLING TO ME. IT WAS BREATHTAKING TO LISTEN TO THOSE WHO STRUCK DOWN ANY REQUIREMENT FOR AN ABORTION IS TO PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE AND SUPPORT TO AN INFANT THAT IS ALREADY BORN AND ALIVE. THIS LAW WOULD DEFY THE FUNDAMENTAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT FOR PARENTS TO PROTECT THEIR CHILDREN THROUGH PRINT HILL CONSENTED NOTIFICATION LAWS. THIS LACK OF PARENTS INVOLVEMENT WOULD LEAD TO MORE EXPLOITATION AND CRIMES AGAINST YOUNG GIRLS AND WOMEN WERE SEXUALLY ABUSED THROUGH SEX TRAFFICKING. GIRLS WILL BE MAY BE EASY PREY TO ABUSERS. ONE STUDY FOUND THAT UP TO 64% OF WOMEN HAVING ABORTIONS WERE COURSED INTO IT. AS A REGISTERED NURSE IN PRO-LIFE ACTIVISTS. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH POST ABORTIVE WE WOMEN AND MEN WHO ARE SUFFERING INDESCRIBABLE PAIN AND SUFFERING AS THEY MOURN THE LOSS OF THEIR UNBORN CHILD. SOME WOMEN ARE LEFT UNABLE TO HAVE FUTURE CHILDREN. MANY WOMEN DEEPLY REGRET CHOOSING ABORTION AND CLAIM THEY WERE LIED TO AND NEVER INFORMED OF ANY OTHER CHOICE OTHER THAN ABORTION. AND THIS BILL WOULD REMOVE INFORMED CONSENT AND ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS BEING PROVIDED FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS.
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO WOMEN'S CHOICE. LOCAL CITIES AND TOWNS WOULD ALSO LOSE THEIR CHOICE. LOCAL CONTROL WOULD BE VIOLATED BY PREVENTING THEM FROM KEEPING ABORTION CLINICS OUT OF THEIR LOCALE. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T GET TO MY TESTIMONY, BUT I HOPE THAT YOU WILL THANK THANK YOU FOR SUPPLY. THANK YOU. LAST GROUP OF WE HAVE KIT. KAT, I'M. >> MARYLAND BAKER AND RABBI RAPOPORT. AND IF IF KIDS COULD BEGIN THE TESTIMONY AND SIGN AND AFTERWARDS THAT COULD THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MY NAME IS COULD CATCH HIM. IN HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF SENATE FILE 70. I'M A PERSON WHO HAD AN ABORTION IN 1974. ONE YEAR AFTER THE ROE V WADE DECISION. AT THAT TIME, I HAD TO TRAVEL 3 HOURS TO THE NEAREST ABORTION PROVIDER. BUT I DID NOT HAVE TO LISTEN TO STATE MANDATED ANTI-ABORTION PROPAGANDA FROM HIM.
I DID NOT HAVE TO MAKE A SECOND TRIP BECAUSE OF A STATE MANDATED. 24 HOUR WAITING, PERIOD. I DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE MANDATORY BURIAL OF THE PRODUCTS OF CONCEPTION. I'M NOW 71 YEARS OLD AND I HAVE DAUGHTERS AND A GRANDDAUGHTER. I WANT THEM TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS THAT I HAD DURING MY REPRODUCTIVE YEARS. MINNESOTA HAS ONLY JUST OVERCOME THESE AND OTHER RESTRICTIONS LAST YEAR THROUGH A COURT DECISION. AS WE'VE SO TRAGICALLY SEEN IN THE DOBBS CASE, COURT DECISIONS ARE TOO EASILY OVERTURNED. MINNESOTA NEEDS LEGISLATION ENDING THESE PUTATIVE ABORTION RESTRICTIONS. MINNESOTA STATE CONSTITUTION PROVIDES STRONG PROTECTIONS FOR OUR RIGHT TO CONTINUE OR END A PREGNANCY AND TO GET AN ABORTION.
IF THAT IS WHAT WE WE NEED TO PASS SENATE BILL 70. TO ENSURE THAT THIS RIGHT IS IMPLEMENTED IN LAW TO SUPPORT WOMEN AND FAMILIES IN THEIR MOST PERSONAL DECISIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MARYLAND BAKER. GOOD MORNING AND I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS THIS MORNING. A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON ME. I'M A REGISTERED NURSE. MASTER PREPARED WORK MOST OF MY DAYS IN MAYO IN ROCHESTER AND TAUGHT AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. THERE IS A NURSING FACULTY. OF THE FEW THOUGHTS TO SHARE AND A LITTLE DIFFERENT. POSSIBLE THOUGHTS THAT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT AS YOU'RE MAKING YOUR VOTES. AS WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN OUR COUNTRY, MILLIONS OF THEM. MANY PRECIOUS CHILDREN HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THE RIGHT TO LIVE TO BECOME TODDLERS TO BECOME TEENAGERS TO FALL IN LOVE THAT FIRST TIME. TO MARRY, MAYBE HAVE CHILDREN. WE LOOK AT THE LOSS OF MANY GENERATIONS LEGAL ABORTION. AND I ASK YOU, AS SENATORS, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD? WE DON'T HAVE EMPLOYEES. STAFF ARE BUSINESSES.
WE HAVE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NO LONGER HERE IN OUR WORLD. THAT COULD BE. OUT THERE WORKING AND IN BUSINESSES AT THIS TIME. SOUNDS LIKE A HARSH WAY TO LOOK AT IT. BUT IT IS PART OF THE WE ARE REALLY HURTING FOR EMPLOYEES AT THIS TIME. AND MY OTHER THOUGHT IS WE'VE SEEN SHOTS OF VIOLENCE INCREASE IN OUR SOCIETY. WE WONDER WHERE THAT COMES FROM. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THAT CHILD. IT'S BEEN A VERY VIOLENT ACT. GENERATIONS HAVE SEEN WE CAN BE VIOLENT TOWARDS EACH OTHER. AND OUR VIOLENCE IN OUR WORLD IS INCREASING TERRIBLY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU FOR SHARING RAM I DEBRA RAPOPORT. GREETINGS. MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M RABBI DEBRA RAPOPORT. I'M CO-CHAIR OF THE MINNESOTA RABBINICAL ASSOCIATION. >> I'M HERE TODAY WEARING MY TALLY TO BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT IS MY RELIGIOUS DUTY TO SPEAK OUT IN FAVOR OF SENATE FILE 70 AND IN SUPPORT OF REMOVING OPPRESSIVE RESTRICTIONS ON. ABORTION ACCESS. TODAY'S SPEAK ON BEHALF OF CENTURIES OF JEWISH TEACHINGS AND WAS BUILT ON OUR SHARED BIBLE.
AND I'M ALSO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF OF JEWISH VOTERS IN MINNEAPOLIS. I MEAN, IN MINNESOTA, WHILE WE ARE A SMALL IN NUMBERS, WE SHARE RELIGIOUS ROOTS WITH THE CHRISTIAN MAJORITY. THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMANDMENT IN JEWISH TRADITION IS PEAK WHO ASKED NOT FISH. WE CALL IT. TO SAVE A LIFE. WHEN SAVING A LIFE CHALLENGES OUR OBSERVANCE OF OTHER COMMANDMENTS, WE ALWAYS CHOOSE PRESERVING LIFE. JEWISH TRADITION, FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TALMUD AND MEDIEVAL CODES OF LAW GIVES ABSOLUTE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE. ONCE A CHILD BEGINS TO EMERGE FROM THE WOMB. UNTIL BIRTH, THE FETUS IS HELD SACRED AS PART OF ITS MOTHER RATHER THAN AS AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY. THIS MEANS THAT THE PRIORITY OF PRESERVING AND PROTECTING LIFE MUST BE APPLIED TO THE PERSON CARRYING THE UNBORN FETUS. THUS THERE ARE TIMES WHEN ABORTION IS THE BEST ETHICAL CHOICE WHEN THE LIE FOR THE HEALTH, INCLUDING PSYCHOLOGICAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH OF THE PREGNANT PERSON IS AT RISK. ABORTION ACCESS RESTRICTIONS, COMPROMISE OUR RIGHT TO PRACTICE OUR RELIGION.
MOREOVER, WE ARE TAUGHT THAT THE PHRASE IN DEUTERONOMY 16 20, WHICH SAYS SAID IT SAID IT TO DO IN HEBREW JUSTICE. JUSTICE SHALL YOU PURSUE MEANS JUSTICE FOR ALL REMOVING ALL RESTRICTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY TODAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY THANK YOU TO TESTIFIERS WHO? >> WHO CAME TO THE COMMITTEE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE MANY WRITTEN TESTIMONIES THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKETS WILL TAKE TIME TO. REVIEW THOSE CONSIDER THEM WELL. AND NOW WE WILL MOVE REMEMBER SENATOR, MAKE PEOPLE MEMBERS TO HAVE ANY SENATOR, A BLUR. >> WELL, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND I. THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT TOPIC AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR CONDUCTING A RESPECTFUL HEARING. LAST TIME WAS A LITTLE LATE ON TIME. THAT'S A QUESTION WE DIDN'T QUICK ANSWERED. BUT THANK YOU FOR FOR THAT.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT. APPRECIATE THE TESTIFIERS. SO, NICK, WHAT A BREATH OF HE WAS ON THIS MATTER? AND SO. JUST, YOU I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. I HAVE A QUESTION OR 2 FOR THE AUTHOR OF THE NIGHT FOR AMENDMENTS. I DID DO MY THE RULE 95. 0, 5, 0, 2, 3, 5, IS NOT A TECHNICAL RULE. ACTUALLY RELATES TO WELL. IT'S PAYING ABORTIONS BY THE STATE. AND SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH IN THE BILL. SECTION 10 ON PAGE 11 THAT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I DID MY HOMEWORK. SO. MADAM AND >> I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED THIS BILL. I THINK IT'S PREMATURE. I THINK THE TESTIMONY ABOUT IT BEING APPEALED. BUT THE LEGISLATURE HAD OF THE PROCESS. ADDITIONAL BALANCE OF POWER THAT WE HAVE. AS WENT REALLY A WHOLE LOT OF DOORS. I HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS. WITH PEOPLE, AT LEAST 50 ON THE SIDE OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED ROAD TOO BE AVAILABLE TO THEM. AND I THINK CERTAINLY THAT SENATE FILE ONE MORE THAN WOULD TAKE CARE OF THEIR CONCERNS.
IN FACT, IT'S GOES TO THE POINT THAT A TEENAGER WHILE THEY'RE AT IT REQUESTS THE STERILIZATION, WHICH IRONICALLY WAS IN THE YELLOWSTONE SHOW, WE WATCH LAST NIGHT. THE BROTHER, LET'S GO ON ABORTION. SHE WON THE. GOING AND GETTING STERILIZE AT THE CLINIC ACQUIRED SOMEWHERE ACTUALLY WANT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. TONIGHT. I'M NERVOUS WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT. BUT THAT BILL IS NOT HERE TODAY. AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF US HERE ISN'T NECESSARY TO SATISFY THE PEOPLE I MET AT THE DOORS. AND IN THE AMENDMENT SAID BRING WILL DISCUSS THAT NUMBER TRY TO AVOID REPEATING MYSELF. ANYTHING I SAID BEFORE, MADAM CHAIR AND NONE OF MY COMMENTS ARE DILATORY. BUT I THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT.
SO. THE IS PRETTY HAPPY JUST DID A WHOLE BILL A LOT OF HELPING FAMILIES AND KIDS AND HE QUOTED IN A TWEET WE HAVE A HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MINNESOTA THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY FOR KIDS. AND CENTER MAKE WEIGHT. I'VE A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHEN HIS UNBORN BABY, IT'S BECOME A KID. SO A QUEEN. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND CENTER.
A BLUR. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M 100% ARE SENDING A QUESTION. ARE YOU ASKING ME WHEN? SOMEONE IS BORN? WHEN DID THEY A TODDLER? A CHILD? I'M NOT CLEARING A QUESTION. >> ALL RIGHT. WHERE CAN I THINK SO? I'LL REPHRASE THE QUESTION. FOR MAKE WEIGHED. WHEN DOES UNBORN BABY BECOME A PERSON? SENATOR MIKE THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR CENTER, A BLUR. I THINK. I THINK THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING >> GOES BEYOND THE SCOPE OF OUR PRACTICE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE LEGISLATORS NOT DOCTORS. SO IN PREGNANCY AND CHILDBIRTH, THERE ARE NUMEROUS WAYS THAT PREGNANCIES PROGRESS THAT PEOPLE ARE BORN. MANY STATES IN WHICH THEY'RE BORN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS A PIE PERSON. HOOD TO SOMEBODY IS PREGNANCY OR TO SOMEONE'S BIRTH BECAUSE THAT IS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THEIR. PROCEDURE, THE PREGNANCY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WHEN SOMEONE A CHILD IS BORN, THEY'RE BORN. THEY BECOME A PERSON. THEY HAVE ALL OF THE RIGHTS UNDER MINNESOTA LAW SO I I THINK THAT GETS TO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ASK FOR.
BUT LIKE IF YOU'RE ASKING WHEN SOMEBODY BECOMES A PERSON FROM CONCEPTION TO BIRTH THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THOSE OUTSIDE OF ALL OF OUR PURVIEW IN MY VIEW IS NOT IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT MINNESOTANS ARE ABLE TO HONOR THEIR OWN BELIEFS WHEN THEY MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT PREGNANCY, BIRTH FAMILIES AND SO FORTH. >> MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. AND I RESPECT YOUR ANSWER I AS I'VE BEEN I'VE NEVER PUT MORE TIME IN ON THIS TOPIC SINCE LATELY. AS ALWAYS BEEN SOMEBODY ELSE DOING IT. SO SUDDENLY HERE WE ARE WITH JUST 3 MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE. CENTER BENSON IS GONE AND OTHERS WHO HAVE SPENT A GOOD DEAL OF TIME RESEARCHING. BUT I LEARNED A LOT AND I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE WHEN LIFE BEGINS AND WHEN THEY BECOME A PERSON, A PERSON I THINK IS A LEGAL TERM THAT DESCRIBES VARIOUS RIGHTS AND SO ON AND AND THEN TALKING AND IN MEETING SOME OF THE TESTIMONY WE'VE HAD HERE TODAY.
THAT I THINK THE ERA THAT WE'RE MAKING AND IN PROTESTING WOULD PROCEED WITH THE BILL LIKE THIS IS. I THINK THERE ARE ACTUALLY 2 PERSONS INVOLVED AT SOME POINT ALONG THE WAY BEFORE THE END COMES, WE'LL TALK ABOUT VIABILITY A LITTLE WHILE NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S IT'S BEEN A STANDARD THAT WE'VE USED WHEN THE PERSON SMART ALIVE. THAT'S THE STANDARD. BUT I THINK THAT. OF THOBJECTIONS THAT I'VE HEARD COMES THIS LAW, IT COULD BE CLEANED UP.
THERE'S NO REASON TO GIVE SOMEBODY FALLACIOUS INFORMATION. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S NO REASON TO REQUIRE WOMAN WHO HAS AN END AND SO FULLY. BABY IN HER TOO. CALL THAT EVEN AN ABORTION. THAT'S UNFAIR. AND WE COULD CLEAN THAT UP WITHOUT HAVING TO GET RID OF ALL THE PROTECTIONS. MADAM CHAIR, I TOLD YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE OR I AND I AM. I'M NOT GOING TO I JUST WOKE UP THIS MORNING. VERY WANT TO READ A COUPLE VS AND JUST UNDERSTAND WHERE I COME FROM IN THIS.
IT WAS A LITTLE JUST A VERSE IN SECOND CURRENT THINGS TO TALK ABOUT THE FRAGRANCE OF LIFE. AND FOR ME, APPRECIATE THE RABBI. TALKING ABOUT LIFE IS. FOR EMINENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THEM TO SCORE TO HEAR ABOUT THE BUT SO TO ME, LIFE IS AMAZING. THE CHANCE TO PRODUCE LIFE. THE CHANCE TO BE ALIVE AND SOMEHOW IN THIS DEBATE, WHAT WE NEED TO FIND HIS RESPECT FOR THE WOMAN AND THE FAMILY RELATED TO THAT AND FOR THE UNBORN CHILD. AND I THINK THIS BILL DOES NOT DO THAT SO STAND DOWN FOR NOW. >> THANK THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS, SENATOR, A KEY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR THE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS HERE THIS MORNING.
BUT A TERM THAT COMES UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS THE REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE SPEAKING OF THEM. A MOTHER. IN PARTICULAR, BUT I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT. HEALTH CARE FOR THIS BABY. DID I MISS SOMETHING? SENATOR? MAKE ONE? >> A SENATOR, A KEY. DID YOU? I'M SORRY. ARE YOU ASKING IF THIS BILL DEALS WITH HEALTH CARE FOR LIKE PRENATAL HEALTHCARE? >> NO, I'M THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, JUST TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING HEARS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE MOTHER. I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BABY. THAT'S DEVELOPING. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS. A GUESS. WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS THIS IS ALL ONE-SIDED.
WE'RE WE'RE JUST NOT. CONCERNED OR TALKING ABOUT THAT BABY. AND, YOU FUTURE HUMAN BEING AS GROWS UP AND JOINS US AT THE TABLE HERE, ETCETERA. SO THAT WAS A GUESS. I'M MORE OF A THAT COULD MAKE IT MORE OF STATEMENT. BUT YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS THAT YOUNG BABY AND WE'RE JUST NOT SEEN ANY OF THAT IN HERE. I THINK THAT THE 57 DIFFERENT LINES OF STATUTE THAT ARE BEING ADJUSTED REMOVED AND REPEALED HAD SOME PROTECTIONS FOR THAT YOUNG BABY HAD PROTECTIONS FOR THE MOTHER AND WE'RE JUST THROWING THEM OUT THE DOOR. THAT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME. BUT ALONG AND ANOTHER HOW MANY ABORTIONS TO WE IN MINNESOTA THE YEAR. A CRANE, 2. >> MADAM CHAIR, SENATOR, A KEY. IT DEPENDS ON THE ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 8,000 TO 9,009 1500 DEPENDS ON THE AIR. >> THINK YOU, MADAM CHAIR? DO YOU KNOW? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO THOSE PROCEDURES COST. SENATOR, MAKE WIN. >> MADAM CHAIR, SENATOR, A KEY. IT DEPENDS ON WHERE IN PREGNANCY A PERSON US THE TYPE OF PROCEDURE THAT THEY HAVE.
AND AT TIMES THE REASON THAT THEY'RE HAVING THE PROCEDURE. SO MOST OF OUR SINS OF MINNESOTA HAPPENED IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER ABOUT 60% OF ABORTIONS IN MINNESOTA ARE MEDICATION ABORTION. SO IT'S 2 PILLS THAT PEOPLE TAKE. IT'S SAFER THAN OVER-THE-COUNTER TYLENOL THAT CAN RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 100 TO $400, DEPENDING ON SOMEONE'S INSURANCE STATUS, HOW FAR ALONG THEY ARE IN PREGNANCY WHERE THEY LIVE. IF THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL, TAKE OFF WORK, PROVIDE CHILD CARE, SO ON AND SO FORTH, FIND LODGING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS LATER IN PREGNANCY.
ABORTION IS MORE EXPENSIVE. IF YOU REQUIRE AN IN CLINIC ABORTION THAT CAN BE MORE EXPENSIVE. AND THEN YOU ADD WE DON'T HAVE MANY CLINICS HERE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. WHILE ADVANCED PRACTICE CLINICIANS. MEDICAL PROVIDERS THAT WORK IN PRIMARY CARE FACILITIES ARE TRAINED AND LICENSED ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE ABORTION CARE. THEY GENERALLY DO NOT. AND SO YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL IF YOU LIVE IN A PLACE LIKE AURORA, MINNESOTA, PRETTY FAR TO ACCESS ABORTION CARE. SO YOU ADD IN THE COST OF GAS AGAIN, TIME OFF OF WORK OR SCHOOL CHILDCARE BECAUSE TWO-THIRDS OF MINNESOTANS WHO HAVE ABORTIONS ARE ALREADY PARENTS. YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, INTO THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. AND THEN YOU ADD ON TOP OF THAT, THAT SOMETIMES INSURANCE DOESN'T COVER THE COST OR SOMETIMES ARE BUREAUCRATIC HURDLES THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO FACE TO SWITCH INSURANCE AND IT CAN BE QUITE EXPENSIVE.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO KNOW AS WELL AS THE LONGER WE FORCED PEOPLE TO DELAY ACCESSING CARE, THE MORE EXPENSIVE CARE GETS AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THEIR CARE. AND BY THE TIME THEY FIND THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THEIR CARE, THEY'VE ACTUALLY PROGRESS FURTHER ALONG IN THE PREGNANCY AND IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE AND THEN THEY HAVE TO FIND MORE MONEY, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE PROCEDURE. DEPENDS ON THE PERSON DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY LIVE.
BUT ANYWHERE FROM $400 TO, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL $1000. SENATOR KAINE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND YOU AND I ARE GOING DOWN 2 DIFFERENT PATHS HERE ON THAT QUESTION. SO BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION BECAUSE WHAT I WAS GOING AFTER AND WHEN YOU AND THE LOW END, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I'M LOOKING AND CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BEING A BUSINESS MODEL FOR THOSE PROVIDING THESE ABORTIONS. IT'S AN ECONOMIC DRIVER AND THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED.
IT'S ALL ABOUT POSSIBLE MONEY VERSUS HUMAN BEINGS SO THAT'S THAT'S AN ANGLE IS CONCERNING. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE EXTRA STUFF BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WOULD GO THROUGH TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT THE CHILD AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. IT'S BEING DRIVEN BY ECONOMICS BEFORE I WRAP UP MY QUESTIONS, I'VE GOT MORE OF A COMMENT HERE. THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE SAYING THAT THAT YOUNG. AND I DO KNOW BY THE MAJORITY OF THE AT LEAST THE DATA I'M SEEING THE MAJORITY OF THE ABORTIONS ARE. 20 SOMETHING YOUNG LADIES AND THEM. THAT'S MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE NOT MARRIED. BUT STILL WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VERY YOUNG MINERS THAT NOW WE'RE SAYING THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT NOT HAVE TO GET ANY HELP COUNSELING, ETCETERA. YOU KNOW, MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE. BASED ON, YOU KNOW, LIFE VERSUS DEATH AND BUT THEN STARTED THINKING ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE REQUIRE YOUNG PEOPLE TO HAVE SUPERVISION FOR OR THEY FLAT CAN'T EVEN DO. BUT YET WE CAN DO GO THROUGH ABORTION AND JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT I MADE NOTES OF.
MINOR CAN OPEN CREDIT CARD CAN OPEN A CREDIT CARD ACCOUNT WITHOUT. A PARENT OR GUARDIAN SIGNATURE. OF COURSE IT CAN'T VOTE. THEY CAN'T HURT. THEY CAN HARVEST WILD RICE WITHOUT BEING ACCOMPANIED BY A PERSON 18 YEARS OLDER OR WITH A LICENSE, CAN'T GET TATTOOS AND CERTAIN PIERCINGS CAN REGISTER AN AUTOMOBILE. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW THEY CAN'T WORK IN THE BARK CENTER, BUT YOU CAN'T BET ON HORSE RACING CAN PLAY THE LOTTERY MUST BE 16 TO DRIVE AN AUTOMOBILE. THE ONE THAT I SAT THROUGH A FEW YEARS AGO IN JUST ONE PLUM CRAZY OVER WAS IF YOU'RE 15 OR YOUNGER, YOU CAN'T EVEN DRIVE A COMMERCIAL LOT MORE. AND THEN NOW WE'RE SEEING THIS YOUNG PERSON IS GOING TO MAKE IT A CHOICE OF LIFE VERSUS DEATH WITHOUT ANY CONSULTATION WITHOUT BRINGING IN THEIR PARENTS OR ANOTHER ADULT THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. I JUST FEEL THIS IS GONE WAY TOO FAR AND I HOPE WE PUT SOME COMMON SENSE BACK INTO THIS.
BUT WITH THAT, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I DO HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS, BUT WAIT, LET THE COMMENTS HAPPEN. FIRST. >> SENATOR ABLE DO WANT TO MOVE TO IF IF THAT'S FEB IS TO JUST HAVING THE CONVERSATION THAT I'M SURE I'D BE HAPPY TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT. >> PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> MADAM CHAIR, I WILL OFFER THE A 8 AMENDMENT. AND I CAN DESCRIBE BEING PASSED OUT. THIS IS ONE OF PROVISIONS THAT WAS STRUCK DOWN IN MY OPINION, TEMPORARILY BY THE JUDGE AND IS STILL UNDER APPEAL.
THIS IS ABOUT VIABILITY. AND SO THE CURRENT BACKSTOP THAT MINNESOTA HAD UNTIL THE JULY CENTER MAKE WAY WHENEVER THAT WAS THE DECISION WAS. WAS IN MINNESOTA. YOU COULD NOT GET AN ABORTION ASKED WHAT WAS VIABILITY OF RANGER? 23 WEEKS OR SO? IRONICALLY WAS STILL BE ON A SWEETNESS, 18 WEEKS, FRANCE. THAT WAS 14 WEEKS NOW OWNS 24 WEEKS AND SIMILAR TO ENGLAND AND WALES. AND SO. THIS IS, IN MY OPINION, WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE TRYING TO PROTECT WHEN ROLE WAS STRUCK DOWN. AT THE FOR THIS THAT MANY PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO DON'T EVEN THINK THAT ABORTIONS AGO THAT LATE. BUT THIS WHOLE BILL IS ABOUT 20 WEEKS AND BEYOND. THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO THE REMAINS TO THE VIABILITY AND SO. AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT SCIENCE ADVANCES IN. APRIL OF 21, THERE WAS CELEBRATORY ARTICLE, A NEWS WCCO ABOUT. THE HUTCHINSON FAMILY. AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY CHEERING THAT THEIR BABY WAS BORN UNDER 21 WEEKS WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO SURVIVE. AND THEY'RE HOLDING THIS BABY WHO IS NOW 13 POUNDS OR SOMETHING AND I THINK I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO. ABOARD A CHILD PAST VIABILITY.
AND IF THEY ARE, THEY CAN CERTAINLY GET A HOLD OF ME BUT NOBODY I TALKED TO ON THE 50 CONVERSATIONS. WHAT'S MAKE WAITING ALL CONVERSATION GOING TOURS. A COMMON RESULT OF THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE DOOR SLAM BECAUSE IT WAS SO INTENSE THAT TIME TO LISTEN. AND I APPRECIATE THE DIAL ARRIVING TODAY, WHICH IS RESPECTFUL, THOUGHTFUL AND LISTEN, EVERYBODY WHO CAME WITH THEIR THOUGHTS AND I LEARNED FROM ALL OF THEM. BUT I THINK THIS IS AN EMINENTLY REASONABLE. A PEACE TO KEEP. AND THESE 2 SECTIONS, I BELIEVE RESTORE. THE FACT VIABILITY IS THE NEW BACKSTOP. AND MADAM TRIED REQUEST A ROLL CALL AND I REQUEST A ROLL CALL BE RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL.
>> OTHER 3 HANDS. ROLL CALL HAS BEEN REQUESTED IT WILL BE RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. SENATOR MAY QUIT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND CENTER, A I DO WANT TO JUST CORRECT THE RECORD. SO THE MINNESOTA LEGISLATURE PASSED A VIABILITY VIABILITY THRESHOLD. >> IN 1974, IT WAS STRUCK DOWN BY THE MINNESOTA COURTS IN 1976, THIS BILL DOES NOT CHANGE THAT. AND SO IS AN UNNECESSARY AMENDMENTS BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY OPERATING IN A WORLD FOR THE YOU KNOW, SINCE 10 YEARS BEFORE I WAS BORN, WHERE THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY STRUCK DOWN OUR VIABILITY THRESHOLD. THERE'S 2 PARTS TO AMENDMENT. SO IT'S 1, 4, 5, 4, 1, 1, WHICH WHICH DEALS WITH THE ALREADY RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL VIABILITY THRESHOLD. AND THEN YOU HAVE WON 4, 5, 4, 1, 2, WHICH HAS BEEN RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL THIS PAST SUMMER. AND I DO WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR. I WANT TO SEE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT PREGNANCY IS AND IS NOT I WAS PREGNANT. LIKE 8 MONTHS AGO. THROUGHOUT A PREGNANCY. PEOPLE OFTEN GET MORE INFORMATION.
SOME PREGNANCIES NO MATTER HOW FAR ALONG YOU ARE IN PREGNANCY AREN'T GOING TO BE VIABLE. AND SO WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS CONSTRICT THE MEDICAL CARE THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO ACCESS FOR THEIR PREGNANCY THROUGHOUT THEIR PREGNANCY BASED ON WHAT WE THINK A PREGNANCY IS OR IS NOT ARE OR WHAT IT SHOULD BE OR WHAT WE WOULD WANT IT TO BE. RIGHT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE HEALTH CARE THAT THEY NEED THROUGHOUT THEIR PREGNANCY AS THEY GAIN IN FOR MORE INFORMATION AS THEY HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR PREGNANCY.
SO I URGE A NO VOTE ON BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE PIECES HAVE ALREADY BEEN RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL. WE DON'T NEED TO CONSTRUCT THE HEALTH CARE THAT PEOPLE ACCESS DURING PREGNANCY. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR AND >> SOMETIMES IT'S A. I PREACH THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS CONVERSATION. WE'RE HAVING IT TODAY. I DO KNOW FROM TALKING TO MY BARTENDER THAT HER FRIEND WANTED TO GET AN ABORTION. AND SHE KIND OF PUT IT OFF AND PUT OFF AND THEN 20 WEEKS BECAME 25 WEEKS AND THEY WOULD NOT DO IT. MINNESOTA. THIS WAS AS RECENTLY AS A YEAR AGO. SO IN PRACTICAL APPLICATION IF WE HAD MORE TIME, MADAM CHAIR AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO COME UP AND TELL ME HOW THEY DO THIS STUFF AND WHY DID THEY STOP THAT? WHAT THEY DID NOT DO IT FOR THIS WOMAN WHO CLEARLY WANTED AN ABORTION I THINK IT'S A BACKSTOP WE NEED. I'M NOT GOING TO BE THAT FURTHER, BUT I URGE PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU. >> MEMBERS, ANY OTHER MEMBERS THAT WISH TO COMMENT ON AMENDMENT. BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. OKAY. SEEING MS. RYAN, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE. CHAIR WITH GLENN. NO VICE CHAIR MAN. LEAD A KEY. SENATOR, A BLUR. YES, SENATOR BOLDEN. SENATOR HOFFMAN. SENATOR COOK BACK. SENATOR LE SKI. YES, SENATOR MORRISON NOW. THERE BEING 3, YES VOTES AND 6, NO VOTES. THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. >> SENATOR ABEL ARE LIKE DOG FOR TO AMENDMENT. SENATOR OFFERS 2 AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE PASSED OUT CAN MAKE YOU JUST HEARD THIS IS THE BORN ALIVE PROVISIONS THAT THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF TESTIMONY.
AND I THOUGHT REALLY COMPELLING TESTIMONY. AND SO I DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT WHAT THEY NOW. THERE'S 2 PARTS TO THIS. AND I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS AND I WISH I HAD AN ABORTION PROVIDER IN FRONT OF ME HERE BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE ASK THEM SOME QUESTIONS. BUT SO THIS AS WHEN A PERSON, WHAT BORN. BABY, WHO'S YET TO BE DETERMINED TO BE A PERSON OR NOT, DEPENDING WHO YOU'RE IS BORN OR IS IT ATTEMPTED VIA BOARDED AND THEY SOMEHOW SURVIVED THE AT THAT NANOSECOND. THEY'RE DEEMED TO BE A PERSON. NOW A PERSON IS A LEGAL TERM WHICH COMES UP ALL KINDS OF PROTECTIONS. AND THERE'S THIS. THIS LAW REQUIRES THAT REASONABLE MEASURES CONSISTENT WITH GOOD MEDICAL PRACTICE SHOULD TAKEN BY THE RESPONSE UL MEDICAL PERSONNEL TO PRESERVE THE LIFE AND HEALTH OF THE BORN ALIVE INFANT.
EVEN CALLING IT AN ANYWAY. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS NEVER HAPPENS. IN. I DON'T HAVE ALL THE BUT IN 2016, THERE WERE 5 THAT WERE BORN ALIVE. AND I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED AS I READ THE SUMMARIES OF. ALL MY OWN RESEARCH. I WAS LIKE SITTING UP LATE ONE NIGHT READING ALL THIS STUFF. AND SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN DO TO KEEP THE BABY ALIVE. AND NOBODY DID. THAT AGGRAVATES ME GREATLY. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I'M SURE IF WE HAD TIME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM COME UP AND SAY WHY WOULD YOU NOT DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? TRANSIENT CARDIAC CONTRACTIONS WERE BRIEFLY PRESIDENT.
NO MATTER NO MEASURES WERE TAKEN TO PROLONG HIS CONTRACTIONS. AND THE INFANT DID NOT SURVIVE. AND IN 2 CASES ARE LETHAL. ANOMALY IS A GNOME YIELD ON THAT ONE. IN 2 INSTANCES, COMFORT CARE MEASURES WERE PROVIDED HIS PLAN. NEITHER INFANT SURVIVE. CENTER TO MAKE WAY. DO NOT COMFORT CARRIERS. SENATOR AND I'M SURE CENTER AT WHAT I DO. >> COULD YOU, MADAM CHAIR? SENATOR, ABLE TO MINE DUST? TELL ME WHAT COMFORT CARRIES.
SENATOR MAKE WIND AND I'M SURE THANK YOU SO MUCH >> CENTER ABLE OR I I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED AND AND THAT IS NOT ANY PART OF THIS COMMITTEE. I REALLY WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU FEEL THE WAY THAT YOU DO. BECAUSE THE MOVEMENT TO BAN ABORTION HAS BEEN LOSING SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS. THERE HAS BEEN THIS ATTEMPT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE WITH INFLAMMATORY RHETORIC TO LIE ABOUT ABORTION IS AND IS NOT IN ORDER TO. CHIP AWAY AT SUPPORT FOR ABORTION RIGHTS. AND THIS IS EVIDENCE OF THAT.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THIS PARTICULAR STATUTE, ONE FOR 5 TO 4 TO 3 I'M ACTUALLY GONNA START WITH A LOOK JUST MY STORY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S EASIER TO SAY. WHEN I WAS 20 WEEKS PREGNANT, I HAD MY 20 WEEK ULTRASOUND FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT THEIR PREGNANCIES. YOU GO TO THAT ULTRASOUND. THAT'S A BIG ONE. THEY MEASURE THE NEW CULT WHO THEN THEY MEASURED THE BODY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MEASURE ALL THE STUFF IN THE HEAD AND THEY TELL YOU HOW THE HEART AND THE KIDNEYS ARE DOING ALL THAT. IT'S ALSO THE ONE WHERE YOU CAN FIND OUT SOME SCARY INFORMATION OR THAT THERE COULD BE SCARY INFORMATION. AND THIS PROMPTS LIKE IT DID IN MY SITUATION. A CASCADE OF APPOINTMENTS. FETAL MEDICINE SPECIALIST NEONATOLOGIST MATERNAL MEDICINE, SPECIALIST WEEKLY APPOINTMENTS, EVERY DAY APPOINTMENTS WHERE THEY STRAP YOU TO A THING AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRACKING THE HEARTBEAT. AND ARE YOU HAVING CONTRACTIONS AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT FOR SOME PEOPLE BETWEEN 0 AND 5 MINNESOTANS A YEAR, THEY GO THROUGH THOSE CASCADE OF APPOINTMENTS AND THEY LEARNED THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THEIR CHILD WILL NOT SURVIVE PREGNANCY OR BIRTH.
AND BECAUSE PREGNANCY IS VERY DANGEROUS, IT IS SAFER FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED TO TERMINATE THE PREGNANCY. AT THAT POINT INSTEAD OF AND HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY THE CHILD DYING IN UTERO, WHICH WOULD CAUSE SEPSIS AND DEATH FOR THE PREGNANT PERSON OR DELIVERING LATER IN PREGNANCY. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE ARRIVED AT THE PLACE. WE'RE NOT THING ELSE CAN BE DONE AND THEY HAVE MADE THE HEART-WRENCHING DECISION TO INDUCE LABOR SO THEY GET AN EPIDURAL AND PUT HOST SUN AND THEY INDUCE LABOR AND THEY HOLD THEIR CHILD THAT WILL NOT SURVIVE UNTIL IT SADLY PASSES AWAY.
AND SO COMFORT CARE MEASURES ARE. ARE THOSE COMFORT CARE? IT IS TOO OFTEN TO PEOPLE IN A ROOM HOLDING THEIR WANT A CHILD WHO WAS NOT GOING TO SURVIVE. AND WHEN THEY DO THIS AND YOU HAVE MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE WHO HAVE BEEN PART OF THESE PROCEDURES, THEY HAVE TO PUT A SIGN ON THE DOOR SO THAT KNOWN NERVE, SIR, DOCTOR WALKS AND BECAUSE IT'S IN LABOR AND DELIVERY, THINKING LIKE THIS IS A GREAT DAY FOR THE FAMILY, IT'S OFTEN THEIR WORST DAY AND THIS PARTICULAR SECTION OF LAW, NOT ONLY REQUIRES THAT.
YOU KNOW THAT WE WE CONFLATE WHAT ABORTION IS AND IS NOT. BUT IT REQUIRES THE REPORTING OF THESE FAMILIES DEEPLY PERSONAL. AND OFTENTIMES THE WORST DAY OF THEIR LIFE IN A PUBLIC REPORT RELEASED BY THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH ON JULY. FIRST EVERY YEAR. SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND YOU'RE SEEING COMFORT CARE MEASURES HAS PROVIDED APGAR SCORES OF ONE, THE NO CHILD WAS PERRY VIABLE. THESE ARE 5 PEOPLE IN 2016 OR 3 PEOPLE IN 20 EIGHTEEN'S WORST DAY OF THEIR LIVES. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH MY 5 WEEKS OF IS IT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO? WILL MY CHILD SURVIVE IN UTERO? WILL I SURVIVE THIS PREGNANCY? THERE ARE 2 THOUGHTS. ONE, I MIGHT NOT BECOME A MOM, BUT THE SECOND ONE IS A FIGHT. DON'T BECOME A MOM. I WILL HAVE TO READ IT THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE AND MY DAUGHTERS APGAR SCORES AND WHAT I DID AND DIDN'T DO AND HOW LONG SHE SURVIVED AND THE COMFORT CARE MEASURES THAT WE PROVIDED IN A REPORT PUBLISHED BY MY GOVERNMENT EVERY YEAR.
AND SO WHAT THIS IS OUR CHILDREN WHO WOULD NOT SURVIVE AND COMFORT CARE AND THEIR PARENTS HOLD THEM. WELL, THEY SADLY PASSED FROM WHATEVER TERMINAL ILLNESS THEY HAVE. AND TELLING THE YEAR PERSONAL >> IT BE BETTER IF WE WERE SITTING HAVING A CUP OF COFFEE AND PEOPLE IN OF ALL THE PEOPLE HERE. BUT I THINK THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION AND YOUR CONCERN. AND SO. AND SO THAT'S I GET THAT. WELL, I WISH WE HAD. MAYBE THEY WANT TO COME AND TALK TO THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD. FOLKS FROM MY DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN ACTUALLY. TELL THAT TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THIS COMFORT CARE. BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM EATING THIS IS THEIR BEES ARE ALL ANONYMOUS PEOPLE. THEIR BRIEF STORY THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THIS IS BUT NOBODY ELSE DOES. BUT I'M WATCHING AND ENFORCING. PRIVILEGES AND RIGHTS DOUBLE TO A PERSON. ISN'T IT JUST OF THE STATE? BECAUSE IT'S A PERSON. AND SO. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THEY DIDN'T DO ALL THE WORK THEY COULD HAVE ON A COUPLE OF THESE KIDS, THE ONES THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH LIFE NOT ARGUING APGAR SCORE ONE.
THAT'S PRETTY LOW. AND A STORY ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT NOT FOR THIS STORY, BUT ABOUT HOW SOMETIMES SLOW AFTER OUR SCORES CAN, YOU KNOW, TURN AROUND I THINK. AND THE I THINK THEY COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB ON THOSE 2 OTHER ONES GOING COMFORT CARE BECAUSE THE TESTIMONY FROM PEOPLE ON THE SITE IS THEY DON'T THERE'S TESTIMONIES FROM PEOPLE. I HEARD A WOMAN TALK ABOUT SURVIVE, THE SAILING ABORTION AND SHE WAS AS BIG AS YOU. SHE WAS TALKING. I MEAN, SO. IF THEY THIS IS NOT EVEN ABOUT THE RIGHT TO ABORTION. THIS IS ABOUT EXPECTING THIS LITTLE PERSON THAT CAME OUT.
AND SO ALL EVEN AT THAT MADAME CHAIR. BUT SO I'VE DONE I REQUEST A ROLL CALL AND IT JUST BE PUBLISHED IN THE JOURNAL. REQUEST A ROLL CALL. ARE THERE 3 HANDS TO SUPPORT? 3 THE ROLL CALL WILL BE RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER THIS UP? I'M CENTER MAKE YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MADAM BUT I REALLY DO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE. I WANT TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR WHEN THEY SAY COMFORT CARE MEASURES ARE PROVIDED AS PLANNED. IT'S BECAUSE BY THE TIME FOLKS REACH THIS PLACE, THERE IS NO MEDICAL CARE THAT CAN BE PROVIDED THAT WILL FIX WHAT IS WRONG. THERE IS NO MEDICAL CARE THAT WILL FIX WHAT IS WRONG, WHICH IS SAD. BUT THE TRUTH AND EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE EYES HERE, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE STATE TO COLLECT THE AND TO PUBLISH IT. IT IS BEING USED AS A SMOKESCREEN TO HIDE AN AGENDA TO BAN ABORTION AND TO CONFLATE YOU KNOW, REALLY RARE AND COMPLICATED PREGNANCY SCENARIOS WITH OTHER THINGS.
ABORTION IS THE TERMINATION OF PREGNANCY FOR WHATEVER REASON. AND SO I URGE A NO VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE STATE HAS NO BUSINESS PUBLISHING THE PERSONAL DETAILS OF THESE LIVES AND DOCTORS AND PROVIDERS, PEOPLE WHO PRIDE ABORTION ALSO PROVIDE LABOR AND DELIVERY. THEY'RE THEY'RE OBGYN ENDS. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TREAT WHO PROVIDE MEDICINE. THEY'RE NOT DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AND SO THE SAME PEOPLE WHO DELIVER OUR BABIES PROVIDE ABORTION CARE. AND IF THEY COULD DO ANYTHING TO HELP THESE FOLKS IN THESE PREGNANT SCENARIOS, THEY WOULD. AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO, WHICH IS PROVIDE COMFORT CARE. SO I WOULD I WOULD ASK A NO VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING TRAWLING THROUGH THE DETAILS OF PEOPLE'S HARROWING SITUATIONS IT IS NOT NECESSARY IS NOT NEEDED.
THE STANDARD OF CARE IS PROVIDED IN EVERY MEDICAL SETTING WITH THESE THIS IS JUST IT'S US SMOKE SCREEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONFLATE WHAT ABORTION IS AND HAS NOT. AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT ANYMORE. SENATOR MANDATE TO COMMENT. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. SO JUST A BRIEF COMMENT. A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER ABOUT. >> ABORTION BEING FOR PROFIT >> THAT'S JUST I FIND THAT TO BE A VERY COMMENT. CAN MAKE ARGUMENT FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? EYE. WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO GET COLONOSCOPIES TO PREVENT THEIR B***** CANCER. WE ARE REPLACING THEIR NEEDS. SO THE LIVE WITHOUT PAIN, WE'RE DOING ALL SORTS OF THINGS IN. ARE ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE DO FOR PATIENTS NOW SOLELY FOR PROFIT BECAUSE THAT GOES DIRECTLY AGAINST THE OATH THAT I TOOK TO PROVIDE CARE FOR THAT PATIENT SITTING IN FRONT OF ME. SO TO SAY THAT WE'RE DOING MEDICAL PROCEDURES FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF PROFIT. JUST REALLY, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT IS WILDLY INACCURATE.
>> AND TO THE AMENDMENT A HANDFUL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HANDFUL OF KIDS THAT WERE BORN. BUT WE'RE NOT VIABLE, RIGHT? AND SO SO THEY ENDED PASSING AWAY. AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO IS TOO. >> INTUBATE. THESE KIDS TO 2. BREAK THERE BRES BONES BY DOING CHEST COMPRESSIONS. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I SPENT SOME TIME WORKING. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUSH AND ZIMBABWE.
AND WE HAD A BABY. WE HAD MANY BABIES THAT DID NOT MAKE IT THE ONE IN PARTICULAR. WHO CAME OUT AND AROUND 25 WEEKS. AND I THOUGHT. I'M GOING TO SAVE THE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A VENTILATOR, BUT I BAD THAT FOR 6 HOURS. AND I KNEW THAT MAYBE WASN'T VIABLE. >> SO WHAT I WAS I PROLONGED THAT MOTHER SUFFERING. I PROLONGED THAT HE BE SUFFERING. FOR 6 HOURS OVERNIGHT. WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND I. AND LOOKING BACK AT WHAT IT WAS NOT THE RIGHT THING. AND SO WE CAN'T SIT IN THIS CHAMBER AND LEGISLATE DOCTORS TO DO THAT WHEN THEY HAVE SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THEM AND THEY KNOW THE OUTCOME. AND SO I WOULD URGE A NO ON THIS AMENDMENT. MADAM CHAIR. >> MADAM CHAIR, THANK WHERE ANY FINAL COMMENT ON THIS I THINK AN EYE. I THINK WE'RE DOING GREAT. IN THIS DISCUSSION. I THINK THE RESPECT LEVEL. FOR THE VIEWS HAS NEVER BEEN HIGHER.
AND AND I DON'T KNOW YOU VERY WELL, BUT IN REALM COMMITTEES TOGETHER, SO GETTING TO SEE A LOT OF EACH OTHER AND CENTER MAKE WEIGHT PERSONAL CANDOR, MEMBERS, AUDIENCE OR PERSONAL CANDOR, BUT I DON'T ALWAYS KNOW. SPOKE AGAIN. WAS BECAUSE OF IMPUGNING THE MOTIVES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BEHIND SOMETHING AND SO TO MAKE WEIGHT, YOU DON'T KNOW MY MOTIVES IN WIND BRINGING US FOR THIS IS OUT TO STOP ONE ABORTION. THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT THIS TONIGHT, I WISH WE'D HAD TIME TO BRING UP SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY IS THAT ONE OF THESE CLINICS AND HOW WE DO IT IN MINNESOTA WITH ALL THE STUFF AVAILABLE AND GOD BLESS YOU WITH SENATOR MAN. FOR TRYING TO HELP THAT BABY. THAT IS WHAT YOU PLEDGED WHEN YOU TOOK YOUR OATH. AND I'M SO PROUD OF YOU FOR TRYING THAT THAT'S THAT'S AND JUST. STOPPED ALL. BUT I. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT WE THINK. I THINK AS A STATE, WE WANT TO PRESERVE LIFE WHERE WE CAN.
AND SO THE COMFORT CARE, MAYBE THEY ALL WANT TO DIE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS AMENDMENT IS IT IS SCRIBES, PERSONHOOD. AT THAT TIME. WHEN THEY'RE BORN, THEY THEY IT THE SOMEPLACE. FINALLY, THE LOSSES. THIS IS A PERSON. IT'S WHAT GOVERNOR KIDS. THEY WANT THEY HAVE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RIGHT IF THEY CAN MAKE IT COULD BE EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD HOPE. BUT I JUST WANTED REITERATE, THIS WAS NOT, IN MY OPINION, A CLEVER WAY TO TRY TO UNDO AN ABORTION. THIS IS ABOUT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM AND SOMEBODY MAKES IT, WHAT DO YOU DO THAT? SO I DON'T NEED TO DEBATE A BILL TO STOP THEM. SO THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. SENATOR HALF AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, IN FACT, SAYS THE LEGAL, THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, ISN'T IT? A QUICK SO TO MAKE ONE CENTER HALF AND YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. SO WHEN WHEN IT WHEN A WHEN A CHILD AND FOR MY TRADITIONS, THE LIFE BEGINS.
WHEN YOU BREATHE THAT FIRST BREATH OF AIR. AND SO. WHEN THAT CHILD COMES TO THE WORLD THAN IN THE SIGHTS THAT YOU HAVE THE 2018, 2016, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT 2018. >> WHEN THAT CHILD BREEZE AT FIRST PART OF AIR. THAT CHILD IS NOW FULLY PROTECTED UNDER CURRENT STATE LAW. IS THAT CORRECT? SENATOR MIKE WADE. >> CENTER IN YOUR CORRECT, ALTHOUGH NOT ALL CHILDREN BORN IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BREEZE. MADAM CHAIR. CENTER SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. AND AND I'M WITH YOU ON THE COLORATION. BUT IN THE ONE OF A BILLION INSTANCES WHERE THAT CHILD THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS, RIGHT, THAT WHATEVER. AND IN THAT IS THERE. SOMETHING ENCOURAGE WHERE THERE IS NO MEDICAL HELP GIVEN GIVEN THE FACT THAT I KNOW WHAT THE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COMFORT CARE.
YES, IT'S USUALLY A TEAM OF PEOPLE. IT'S IT'S THE PARENT TO PARENTS AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE INVOLVED. COMFORT CARE. THERE'S THERE'S A A PRACTICE KNOWN. IS THAT RIGHT? WE WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS AND I TO AT 24 WEEKS THAT ME I WASN'T PREGNANT, BUT MY WIFE WAS PREGNANT. SAME FEELINGS. YOU HAD THE SAME FEELINGS THAT SENATOR IT WAS TIED WITH THE SAME FEELINGS THAT DOCTOR MAN IS TALKING ABOUT. THOSE ARE PRESENT IN ME TODAY AS THEY WERE 26 YEARS AGO. AND SO YOUR BILL. DOESN'T TAKE OUT THE FACT THAT IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT CHILD PROTECTED UNDER CURRENT LAW THAT THAT'S A CORRECT STATEMENT, CORRECT. SENATOR, MAKE MADAM CHAIR CENTER AIRCRAFT. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, LARRY. >> ANY MEMBERS OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMENT OR CAN WE PROCEED TO A VOTE? MS RYAN, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE AND THE AMENDMENT. CHAIR WITH GLENN. NO. VICE CHAIR MAN. LEAD A KEY. YES. SENATOR, A BLUR. YES, SENATOR BOLDEN. SENATOR HASSAN NOTE, SENATOR COULD PACK.
SENATOR LACEY. YES. SENATOR MORRISON. THERE BEING 3, YES VOTES AND 6, NO VOTES TO MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED >> SENATOR A BLUR. THEY COME WITH A 7. SENATOR MOVES TO A SEVEN-MONTH. CAN YOU PLEASE JUST PRAY THAT HAS SURE THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE DISPOSITION OF ABORTED OR MISCARRIED FETUSES. >> YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR, MOST INTERESTING DISCUSSION AT THE MOST INTERESTING ROUND DECISIONS BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE. REALLY DON'T SEEM TO MIND ALL ALONG. WE'RE GOING TO DO AN ABORTION. HOW FAR INTO THE PREGNANCY WE? AS A DECIDED WE WEREN'T GOING TO STOP AND VIABILITY. WE DECIDED WE WEREN'T WORKING TO CALL THE. OF THE SURVIVOR, A PERSON.
AND AT IN THIS SITUATION CAN LEAST TREAT THIS. DEPARTED. BABY WITH RESPECT TO. HUMAN BEING. LAW. I KNOW THE PERSON WHO WAS BEHIND MEMBERS FIRST NAME AS I RECALL. AND THEN REMEMBER WHAT YEAR THIS THEY WERE THEIR WORD REMAINS IN DUMPSTERS. OUTSIDE THE ABORTION CLINICS. THEY WERE FLUSHED INTO THE SEWERS. YOU KNOW, AS SO MAKE WEIGHT I'M NOT GOING TAKE THE TIME THE COMMITTEE, BUT ON THE FLOOR THE STORY ABOUT OUR 5 MONTHS OLD. STILLBORN DAUGHTER. WHICH AFFECTS ME TO THIS DAY. SHE BE 31. AND WHEN WE. I WASN'T AS THOUGH THE STORY THIS. BUT SO. SHE WAS DEAR TO US. AND THOSE REMAINS RESIDUE. PROTO IT A PUPPY THAT DIE IN THE MOM. AS OUR DAUGHTER. SOMETIMES WHEN THESE. IT'S STILL GOOD TO DO CLOSURE. AND THIS SAYS DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH THEM. AND I DON'T KNOW ANY BUT WHERE DO THEY GO TO? THEY GET PUT INTO.
I MEAN, COULD THEY BE SOLD? COULD THEY BE? I DON'T KNOW ON THIS. IN MY OPINION, A PERSON INSIDE A MOM. BECOMES A PERSON PRETTY EARLY. AND WHATEVER STATE. A QUARTERLY PREGNANCIES SPONTANEOUSLY. MISCARRY AND THAT'S HOW IT IS. AND YOU MAY NOT EVEN KNOW YOU'RE PREGNANT OR YOU DO. IT JUST SEEMS TO BE REASONABLE. AND THESE ARE NOT RARE CIRCUMSTANCES. YOU MENTIONED 89,000 SINCE WE DIS ARE DOING IS A MINNESOTA HAS BEEN OVER 600,000. ABORTIONS, WHICH IS. MORE THAN A GENERATION. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THIS NEVER HAPPENS. SO. ONE OF THE TEST FIRES TALKED ABOUT. SINCE ARE JUST I DON'T WANT TO CRITICIZE THE TESTIFIER, BUT I THINK HUMAN BEINGS WHEN THEY PASS DESERVE THE RIGHT TO BE RESPECTED. AND NOT TO CARRY OUT THE PAIN FURTHER. BUT THE RESPECT LIFE THAT BROUGHT THE LITTLE GIRL WE HAD.
BRINGS ME JOY TODAY. AND WE DID OUR THING AT HOME AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. AND I GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON THE FLOOR JUST BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. BUT I MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD HOPE WE CAN PASS THIS, I FOR ROLL CALL AND THAT THE RESULTS BE RECORDED IN THE TRIAL. >> ROLL CALL HAS BEEN YOUR QUESTION. ARE THERE 3 HANDS TO RECORD THE RESULT IN THE JOURNAL? THERE ARE 3 HANDS. SENATOR, MAKE ONE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS, I WOULD ASK FOR A NO VOTE ON THIS AND GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR STORY ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER.
I HOPE TO LEARN ABOUT HER NAME AND MORE ABOUT HER STORY THE REPEAL OF ONE FOR 5, 1, 6, TO ONE JUST AS THAT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO CREMATE OR BURY FEEL TISSUE FROM AN ABORTION OR MISCARRIAGE. YOU'RE CERTAINLY ALLOWED TO. AND IF FOLKS WANT TO FOLLOW THAT WITH AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THEIR BELIEFS, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY ALLOWED TO. BUT NOT EVERY PERSON WHO IS PREGNANT AND HAS A MISCARRIAGE OR ABORTION CAN FIRST PERSON HOOD YOU KNOW, DURING DURING PREGNANCY AT CERTAIN POINTS DURING PREGNANCY. BUT THIS LAW REQUIRES PEOPLE TO CONFER PERSON HAD BECAUSE CREMATION AND BURIAL ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE WAY THAT WE HAVE DISPOSITION OF OTHER MATERIALS. AND SO ALL THIS WOULD ALLOW IS FOR PEOPLE TO HONOR THEIR OWN BELIEFS AND THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ABOUT THEIR ABORTION MISCARRIAGE WITHOUT US IMPOSING PERSONHOOD IN CONVEYING PERSONHOOD ON TO THOSE FOLKS. IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO. SO I ASK FOR A NO VOTE SO THAT WE CAN HONOR THE DIVERSE BELIEFS OF MINNESOTANS AND THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND THINK AND FEEL.
SENATOR, OKAY. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS AMENDMENT. >> IF IS RYAN, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE? CHAIR? WHAT GLENN? VICE CHAIR MAN. LEAD A KEY. YES, SENATOR, A BLUR. YES. SENATOR BOLDEN. SENATOR HOFMANN KNOW SENATOR, COME BACK. SENATOR LE SKI. YES, SENATOR MORRISON NOW. >> THERE BEING 3, YES VOTES AND 6 NO VOTES. THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. SENATOR THAT 9 AMENDMENT. AND THIS IS MY FINAL AMENDMENT. MADAM CHAIR. THANK SENATOR. REMOVES 9 AMENDMENT WILL BE PICKING MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS WAS GETTING PASSED OUT. THIS IS THE INFORMED CONSENT OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE RIGHT TO KNOW. WITH A COUPLE CHANGES WHICH REFLECTS LISTEN TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS. IT SEEMS. I PEOPLE ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH REPORTS THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE. CIVIL PENALTIES. THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE OF TELLING WOMEN THAT THEY CAN GET B***** CANCER. SO MADAM CHAIR, THIS AMENDMENT INCLUDES. I THINK 7 SECTIONS OF THAT ARE DELETED. BUT DOES NOT REINSTATE THE CIVIL PENALTIES IS NOT REINSTATE THE REPORTING IT'S A REFERENCE TO B***** CANCER.
I WANTED TO MAKE THIS CLEAN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT SHALL WE CAUTION THIS. FAMILY, WHOEVER ABOUT SO. AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND ALL I HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT NOW IS THAT IT'S WHAT IT IS. EQUATE THE 2. ABOUT THE AMENDMENT? MADAM CHAIRMAN, I'M STILL WORKING MY WAY THROUGH THE AMENDMENT. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE WAITING FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M SEVERAL SECTIONS THAT ARE LISTED AT THE BOTTOM HERE >> REFER TO DID YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE AND I ACTUALLY IT'S IT'S IN THE REPEAL OR SECTION.
I THINK. >> IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE TECH CENTER, MAKE WEIGHT OURS. THANK WHAT PAGES. IT'S IN. OURS. SO IF YOU LOOK UP ON 45.0, 4, 2, 4, 2, THERE'S A SERIES OF SECTIONS BACK THERE. AND IF YOU NOTICE THAT 2 OF THEM WERE NOT INCLUDED. WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE CIVIL PENALTIES ON THE REPORTING. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND I AND CYPRESS T SENATOR ABLE LOOK AT REMEMBER WHEN THIS GOT PASSED.
REMEMBER ALL ALONG, WE DEBATED IT HAS SOME GREAT STATEMENTS, A PURPOSE. AND IT DOES REQUIRE A WAITING PERIOD. IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS. IN THIS ROOM. IT IS THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE MORE RARE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE WANTS MORE ABORTIONS. AND I THINK WE DIVERGE FROM THERE. BUT SO. I'VE SAT THROUGH THIS DEBATE NOW. 24 ABOUT THIS WHOLE TOPIC AND TALKED TO COUNTLESS PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM. ABOUT THIS TOPIC. ANY OF THAT NOBODY BROUGHT IT UP TODAY. MANY WE'LL TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE SO HAPPY. BUT THEY WAITED. THEY'RE SO HAPPY, BUT THEY WERE CAUTIONED THERE ARE SO HAPPY THAT THEY HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT. IN THE LAST HEARING ON THIS. I SUGGESTED THAT THERE'S A NOTICE ON AVAILABLE THAT THE PERSON SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO LOOK AT IT IF THEY WANT. WE AS A COMMITTEE DID NOT AGREE THAT WHICH I ON SURPRISING, BUT BUT IT. BUT IF YOU READ THE LANGUAGE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE BEING REQUIRED TO BE TOLD BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THIS. THEY'RE GOING TO THERE TIME. AND I'VE I'M NOT A WOMAN, UTERUS, BUT I'VE TALKED A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO AND I'VE READ STORIES ABOUT THE PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM THAT HAPPENS AND THE PHYSICAL HARM THAT COULD HAPPEN.
AND EVEN IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH REPORTS, IT'S NOT AS SAFE TYLENOL. YOU COULD GET. LACERATIONS, HEAVY BLEEDING. YOU'RE IN PREPARATIONS. YOU CAN BE STERILE. YOU CAN HAVE AN INFECTION. AND YOU CAN OF ONGOING CRITICAL SUICIDAL IDEATIONS AND SOME ACTUALLY PEOPLE DO DECIDE TO TERMINATE THEIR OWN LIFE OVER THIS. SO NOT A RANDOM CASUAL THING JUST TO GO TO AND NOBODY IN THIS ROOM IS SAID THAT. BUT I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THAT TO MAKE SURE SINCE PEOPLE TESTIFY, THEY DIDN'T KNOW. WE SHOULD BE SURE THAT THEY DO. AND THEY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE RISKS OF INFECTION, ETC. AND THEY SHOULD KNOW. THAT TO BE OFFERED THE CHANCE TO GIVE THEIR UNBORN BABY AND ANASTASIA, WHICH IS. ONE OF THE PARAGRAPHS THERE. JUST, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS A UNWORKABLE METHOD. TO WARN PEOPLE. LET'S FIX THE WORK ABILITY. LET'S NOT MAKE A WOMAN COME UP AND I GRIEVE FOR THAT FAMILY WHEN THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS PROCESS FOR A BABY THAT HAD.
AND DEFINITELY THAT THAT IS NOT THE INTENTION OF ANYBODY. I KNOW. WANTS A SCRIBE PERSONHOOD TO THIS INDIVIDUAL. BEFORE THEY'RE BORN. AND CERTAINLY. AS WE THIS BILL IS A LOT OF ALL PAST 20 WEEKS AND SO. THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THIS. AND SO WHAT I WOULD RATHER WE DO ON THIS AND A NUMBER OF THE PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL IS LET'S FIX THEM. LET'S PROTECT THE WOMAN. LET'S PROTECT THE MINOR WOMAN WHO IS IN SO MUCH CHALLENGE TIME AND SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE A GOOD DECISION. WHEN YOU LOOK BACK TO GO LIKE THAT MADE SENSE TO ME. AND MAYBE THEY'LL BE AS CONTENT AS YOU'VE MANY OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABOUT THE CHOICE THEY MADE. EVERYBODY HAS COME UP AND SAID I WAS IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THEY KNEW ALL THIS STUFF. THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE MET. AS THEY PICK UP THEIR LIVES IF THEIR AND SO. WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF LAWS WE PASS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ASSISTED-LIVING RULES, IT'S THIS THICK. IT'S A PHONE BOOK. AND SO THE PROVIDERS SAY RULES WILL TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE. OVER TIME WE DECIDED WE HAVE TO PROTECT PEOPLE, PROTECT SENIORS, BUT PEOPLE DISABILITIES, PROTECT INDIVIDUALS. WE'D INVULNERABLE. I CAN'T THINK OF SOMEONE MORE VULNERABLE THAN THAT. SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE SITUATIONS THAT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THAT'S AND MOSTLY TALKING FOR THE DAY. MADAM CHAIR. I HOPE THAT MY COMMENTS IN A RESPECTFUL. TO THE PEOPLE FIND THEMSELVES IN CRISIS. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS. I DO. AND I THINK I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE TESTIMONY AND COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL. MADAM CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING A HEARING THAT MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE YOU KNOW, RESPECT FROM US. SO THAT WITH THAT, MADAM JEALOUS FOR ROLL CALL THAT THE RESULTS BE RECORDED. AND THE JOURNAL ROLL CALL HAS BEEN REQUESTED AND OTHER 3 HANDS TO RECORD THE RESULTS IN THE JOURNAL.
>> OKAY. 3 HANDS, THE RESULT OR THE ROLL CALL WILL BE RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL. CENTER MAKE WHY DID YOU HAVE? IT'S ABOUT THE AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND AND SENATOR ABLE I DO HAVE THOUGHTS AND I WANT TO BE REALLY MINDFUL OF OUR TIME. I REALLY WANT US TO BE CLEAR ABOUT. WOMEN AND PEOPLE WITH UTERUSES ARE NOT. CONFUSED ABOUT THEIR DECISIONS. WE ARE PEOPLE WITH AGENCY AND BRAINS. MOST PEOPLE HAVE ABORTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PREGNANT BEFORE 2 THIRDS THEY'RE NOT UNSURE. THEY DON'T NEED THE STATE TO FORCE THE SCRIPT IN ORDER TO LIKE TELL THEM WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND I WANT US TO MOVE AWAY FROM THIS MINDSET THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE ABORTIONS ARE IN CRISIS. MOST PEOPLE LIKE 95%. PLUS PEOPLE DO NOT REGRET THEIR ABORTIONS AND REPORT EVEN 5 YEARS AFTER THE FACT FEELING POSITIVE OR NEUTRAL ABOUT IT. THERE ARE NO GOOD OR BAD ABORTIONS THERE JUST ABORTIONS THAT MINNESOTANS HAVE THAT THAT'S PART OF THEIR MEDICAL CARE AND WHEN WE TRY TO PASS LAWS LIKE THIS, WE IMBUE OPINIONS ABOUT THEIR ABORTIONS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE REQUIRING THAT TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT THE FATHER'S LIABLE TO ASSIST AND THE SUPPORT OF A CHILD. MY CHILD DOESN'T HAVE A FATHER. IF I HAD TO HAVE AN ABORTION, MY DOCTOR WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO LOOK ME IN THE FACE AND TELL ME THAT A FATHER WOULD BE LIABLE FOR CHILD ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS NOT RELEVANT TO MY CIRCUMSTANCE AT ALL, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED TO DO THAT UNDER FELONY PENALTIES FOR FOR NOT DOING SO.
SO THIS INFORMED CONSENT AS PART OF ALL HEALTHCARE, RIGHT? THE THE RISKS, THE BENEFITS THEY TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THEIR PROVIDER. THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T NEED TO PUT THAT INTO INTO STATUTE THAT AND THESE ARE OPINION ON IT. ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS ALREADY BEEN FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL. AND AND IN ADDITION TO REALLY KIND OF PATERNAL ISING WOMEN IN PEOPLE WITH UTERUSES AND ASSUMING THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR THEY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE DOING IT.
AND THAT IF THE GOVERNMENT TOLD THEM OR THEY MIGHT MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS, I THINK WE CAN TRUST THE WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH THEIR MEDICAL PROVIDERS ABOUT THE BEST CARE FOR THEM. AND SO I URGE A NO AND JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT? SENATOR MAN, THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR AND THE REMAINDER OF THE AMENDMENT. JUST LEGISLATE HOW PEOPLE SHOULD PRACTICE MEDICINE. AND GIVEN THAT MOST OF US ARE NOT MEDICAL PROVIDERS, I RECOMMEND. >> WE NOT DO ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT. CENTER MORRISON. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. A QUIET FOR YOUR EXCELLENT PRESENTATION OF THIS IMPORTANT BILL. I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON DOCTOR CENTER MAN'S KIND. THIS AMENDMENT A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS STANDARD MEDICAL PRACTICE TO IMPLY THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING CARE OF PATIENTS RECEIVING MEDICAL CARE TO NOT DISCUSS INFORMED CONSENT WITH THE PATIENT. DO NOT DISCUSSED IN A FULSOME WAY. ALL THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF FRANKLY, INSULTING TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING CARE OF PATIENTS IN MINNESOTA.
SO MOST OF THIS AMENDMENT IS AND I WOULD CONCUR WITH A OR SENATOR MAN THAT WE SHOULD BE LEGISLATING MEDICAL PRACTICE. THANK YOU. THANK MISTER EDMUNDS. POLICE TAKE THE ROLE. CHAIR WITH GLENN KNOW. VICE CHAIR MAN. LEAD KEY. YES, SENATOR, A BLUR THIS. SENATOR BOLDEN. SENATOR HASSAN, SENATOR COOK PACK. SENATOR SKI. YES, SENATOR MARSON KNOW. >> THERE BEING 3, YES VOTES AND 6 NO VOTES. THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED MEMBERS. I I KNOW SENATOR, YOU MENTIONED, YOU HAVE AMENDMENTS AND I'M PLANNING THAT WE WILL CONCLUDE WITH A VOTE BY 10 45.
SO IF YOU SENATOR WAS KEY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE 5 AMENDMENT. CENTER. LET'S GIVE YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE THE AMENDMENT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MADAM 5 AMENDMENT BRINGS UP A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER AS TO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN. WE TALK A LOT IN THIS COMMITTEE SO FAR ABOUT HOW WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO STAY OUT OF DECISION-MAKING, THE GOVERNMENT TO STAY OUT OF. >> HEALTH CARE PRACTICES. IN THIS CASE, THE SPECIFIC AMENDMENT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT A GOVERNMENT WOULD THEN BE PAYING FOR SAID SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT A PUBLIC FUNDING NOT BE SPENT ON THERE'S THERE'S THINGS LIKE I HEARD YOU SAY WHERE IT IS EXPENSIVE AND IT DOES CREATE A COST-PROHIBITIVE ACCESS TO ABORTION.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT BY ASKING THE GOVERNMENT TO PAY FOR IT, WE NOW HAVE TAXPAYERS WHO DISAGREE AND PAYING FOR ABORTIONS. AND NOW IN THIS WAY, WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO PAY FOR IT ON THE DECISION OF SOMEBODY AND SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO MEET THIS MOMENT. THANK YOU SENATOR MIKE WADE. >> THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, SENATOR LE SKI. I WOULD URGE A NO VOTE MEMBERS. THE MINNESOTA SUPREME COURT HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT PUT ITS THUMB ON THE SCALE IN FAVOR OF ONE PREGNANCY OUTCOME OR ANOTHER THAT WE CANNOT SWAY MINNESOTANS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I'M THE KIND OF CARE THAT YOU RECEIVE SHOULD NOT DEPEND ON WHAT TYPE OF INSURANCE YOU HAVE, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ABORTION CARE IS PART OF PREGNANCY CARE. WHETHER FOLKS AGREE WITH IT OR NOT, THERE ARE MANY RELIGIOUS FAITHS THAT HAVE VARYING OPINIONS ABOUT ALL SORTS OF MEDICAL PROCEDURES LIKE HEART TRANSPLANTS, BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS, AND WE DON'T PREVENT PUBLIC INSURANCE FUNDS FROM GOING TOWARDS THOSE THINGS. THIS IS JUST PART OF HEALTH CARE. AND SO THAT SHOULD BE BETWEEN A PERSON.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE INSURED AND THEIR PROVIDER. AND SO I WOULD URGE A NO VOTE. MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT CENTER ASKING? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD JUST REQUEST A ROLL CALL IN THAT'S GOING TO BE REPORTED IN THE JOURNAL. >> ANOTHER 3 HANDS AC 3 HANDS. SO THE WORLD BEEN REQUESTED AND IT HER RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL. SENATOR, A BLUR JUST. I'VE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS MUCH EXCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORTED. BUT I DID REQUEST A FISCAL NOTE AND THIS ADDS ABORTION SERVICES TO MINNESOTA CARE, WHICH ARE FORMALLY NOT COVERED. SO THIS HAS TO BE A COST AND WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT WHEN THE DEPARTMENT LETS US KNOW. >> WE WILL BE GETTING A FISCAL NOTE AND WE REVIEW THAT ENOUGH. AND AT THIS POINT, THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES HAS INDICATED THAT THERE'S NOT THE ADDITIONAL COSTS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS WORKING ON THE REDUCTION OF REPORTS IN THE REDUCE COSTS AND ARE REDUCED.
YES, REDUCE COST ANY OTHER POSSIBLE COST TO JUST IMPLEMENTING THE YEAH, BUT WE WILL GET THAT. >> NOW I GET THE IMPLEMENTATION PROFIT. I'M SURPRISED THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A COST ADDING A SERVICE THAT SOME THINK. MEMBERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT. MS RYAN, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE. CHAIR WITH GLENN NOW. VICE CHAIR MAN. YES, SENATOR, A BLUR. SENATOR BILL DONE. SENATOR HOFFMAN. SENATOR TO PACK. SENATOR LE SKI. YES, SENATOR MARSAN KNOW. THERE BEING 3, YES VOTES AND 6 NO VOTES. THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. >> SENATOR, OKAY, THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE 83 AMENDMENT. >> ALL RIGHT. 3 CAN YOU WELL, IT'S BEEN PASSED ON SURE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS, THIS AMENDMENT. RETAINS THE PARENTAL NOTIFICATION THAT PART THAT HAS BEEN IN SENATE FILE 70 JUST GOES INTO THE DETAILS WITH MINOR.
MOTHER WE GO THROUGH THE STEPS AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THEM. TODAY ALREADY. SO I WON'T REHASH. MANY OF THEM. BUT THE FACT WE A YOUNG PERSON WHO'LL LOSE IN 8 SPOT IN LIFE THAT. THEY HADN'T PLANNED ON. AND THAT HAVING PARENTS AND WEIGH IN ON THIS AND SOMEONE THAT THEY CAN CONFER WITH AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO AS WE GO THROUGH, THIS IS JUST TOO WHOLE HEART OF IT IS THE PARENTAL NOTIFICATION AND IT ALSO, YOU KNOW, SPILLS OUT THAT IF THE I'M PREGNANT DECLARE SHE'S A VICTIM, VARIOUS THINGS, ASSAULT, NEGLECT, ABUSE. THERE'S PROVISIONS FOR THAT, TOO. IN GENERAL, IT'S BRINGING IN ADULT BACK INTO THE PICTURE. SO I REQUEST A A YES VOTE. AND IT ALSO REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE A ROLL CALL AND THE RECORD BE REPORTED IN THE JOURNAL. >> ANOTHER 3 HANDS TO RECORD. THANK YOU. THE ROLL CALL HAS BEEN REQUESTED AND IT WILL BE RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL. SENATOR MAKE WINE. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR AND SENATOR, A KEY FOR BRINGING THE AMENDMENT. >> I WANT TO ENCOURAGE A NO VOTE. ALL START BY SAYING THAT ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING PART ABOUT BEING A PARENT IS KNOWING THAT SOON AS YOUR CHILD IS BORN, THEY BECOME MORE AND MORE INDEPENDENT OF YOU.
AND AN 8 MONTH-OLD WHO HAS DIFFERING AND I DON'T THINK AN 8 MONTH-OLD COULD THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAT I COULD, BUT SHE DOES. ONE OF THE THINGS I CAN TELL YOU IN. AND AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS A COMFORT. ALL PARENTS WHO ARE WATCHING LISTENING ARE PART OF THIS COMMITTEE, MORE THAN 90% OF MINERS TALK TO A TRUSTED ADULT BEFORE THEY ACCESS ABORTION CARE. IT'S NOT ALWAYS THEIR PARENT. SOMETIMES IT IS A TRUSTED OUT. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN AUNT OR A COUSIN OR RELATIVE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE'S AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARENT, NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARENTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. MINERS IN MINNESOTA CAN ALREADY CONSENT TO MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR PREGNANCY. THEY CAN GIVE BIRTH WITHOUT NOTIFYING THEIR PARENTS ACCESS STI TREATMENT, SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER TREATMENT, MENTAL HEALTH CARE, ALTHOUGH NOT FIND THEIR PARENTS AND THEY CAN ACCESS ABORTION CARE ALREADY WITHOUT NOTIFYING THEIR PARENTS.
THE WAY THAT ONE FOR FORD F 3 FOR 3, THE WAY THAT THIS FUNCTIONS IS NOT WE WANT MINORS TO TELL THEIR PARENTS OR A PARENT OR TRUSTED ADULT, BUT THIS ACTUALLY FUNCTIONS AS IS THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVE TO THE CLINIC THAT THEY HAVE NOTIFIED THEIR PARENTS THROUGH CERTIFIED MAIL. AND SO WHAT THIS ACTUALLY ENDS UP DOING MOST OF THE TIME IS THAT MINORS ARE STANDING WITH ONE OR BOTH OF THEIR PARENTS IN THE CLINIC AND THEY CAN'T PRODUCE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE. A DEATH CERTIFICATE, A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE, AN ADOPTION CERTIFICATE TO PROVE THAT THIS PERSON OR THESE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE TOLD THAT I'M HAVING AN ABORTION ARE IN FACT, MY PARENTS. AND SO THEY GET SENT TO STAND IN FRONT OF A JUDGE WHERE THE JUDGE GETS TO DECIDE IF THE MINOR IS MATURE ARE NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE AN ABORTION. AND IF THE JUDGE DEEMS THAT THE MINERS NOT MATURE ENOUGH TO HAVE AN ABORTION CAN FORCE THEM TO GIVE BIRTH. ALREADY RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL, WHICH IS ARE ENCOURAGING A NO VOTE BY REALLY WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT MINERS DO TALK TO A TRUSTED ADULT? WE CANNOT LEGISLATE WHO THEY TALK TO AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT MINOR STILL HAVE BODILY AUTONOMY.
AN AGENCY PARENTS CAN'T FORCE THEIR CHILDREN TO GIVE BIRTH EITHER. AND THAT'S WHY THE COURTS HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT MINERS DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO ACCESS HEALTH CARE THAT INCLUDES ABORTION CARE, GIVING BIRTH SU TREATMENT, MENTAL HEALTH CARE, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO I ENCOURAGE A NO VOTE FOR FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS. THANK YOU, MEMBERS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. I SEE. NO OTHER IS RIGHT. I'M SORRY, SENATOR. OKAY, I'M I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. I WAS JUST GOING TO PASS ON BUT I THINK. >> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE OF THE COMMENTS. I THINK WE'RE PAINTING THIS WITH A VERY BROAD BRUSH. I BELIEVE FIT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE REFERRED TO STARTING AT AGE 14 AS FAR AS HEALTH CARE DECISIONS. SO I BELIEVE THERE ARE MINERS THAT DO FALL UNDER. AN AGE WHERE THEY DO NEED A PARENTAL. NOTIFICATIONS OR PARENTAL INFLUENCE OR ETCETERA WITH AN BUT IF I'M WRONG, I'M ALL STAND CORRECTED. BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS THAT A LINE IN THERE.
SO IT ISN'T JUST A WIDE ALL MINERS ARE INCLUDED. >> SENATOR MIKE THANK YOU. MADAM CENTER. OKAY. I'LL JUST REFER YOU TO ONE FOR FLORIDA. 3 FOR 3 MINERS. CONSENT IS VALID. ANY MINOR MAY GIVE AFFECTIVE CONSENT FOR MEDICAL MENTAL AND OTHER HEALTH SERVICES TO DETERMINE THE PRESENCE OF OR TO TREAT PREGNANCY AND CONDITIONS. ASSOCIATED THEREWITH AN AERIAL THE SEAS, ALCOHOL AND OTHER DRUG ABUSE AND THE CONSENT OF NO OTHER PERSON IS REQUIRED.
THAT'S THE STATUE. THANK MISS RYAN. WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE? CHAIR WITH GLENN KNOW? VICE CHAIR MAN? KEY. YES, SENATOR, A BLUR. SENATOR BOLDEN. SENATOR HASSAN SENATOR GROOVE BACK. SENATOR LE SKI. YES, SENATOR MORRISON NOW. THERE BEING 3, YES VOTES AND 6 NO VOTES. THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. SENATOR, OKAY. >> THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER FOR AMENDMENT. >> HE OFFERS FOREMAN AND CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE AMENDMENT AS IT'S BEING PASSED >> THIS AMENDMENT THE STATUTES THAT REFERENCE RECORDING FIRST THE LABEL HIM AS A COMMON SENSE INITIATIVE, RECORDINGS IN WE TALK ABOUT. THE ABORTION COMPLICATION DATA REPORTING OUT OF STATE THESE REPORTS BECOME PUBLIC THAT AND IT COVERS REPORTS TO THE COMMISSIONER OF COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH. WHAT I'M WONDERING, TOO, AS I READ THROUGH ALL THESE THINGS AND LOOK AT WHAT TALKED ABOUT HERE, ALSO TODAY IS.
I LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ACCESS TO ALL THE DATA THAT SHOWS US OVER THE YEARS. THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS PERFORMED EACH YEAR WHERE THEY'RE PERFORMED AT THE AGE OF THE WOMEN HAVING ABORTIONS TERM OF THE PREGNANCY IS WHEN IT WHEN IT. LIFE IS TERMINATED THROUGH AN ABORTION ETCETERA. WE HAVE ALL THAT DATA. IF WE ARE RECORDING, KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH IN THE FUTURE? SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD.
INFORMATION IS COLLECTED IN WHEN USED PROPERLY. IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL CAN LEARN SO WITH THAT, I REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT ON THE A 4. AND THAT WOULD ALSO REQUEST A ROLL CALL AND THAT THE RECORD YOU RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL. >> AND OTHER 3 HANDS TOO. AND THE REAL CAUSE REQUESTED AND THAT WILL BE RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL. SO TO MAKE WAVES. >> THANK YOU. MADAM YOU STARTED MAKING MY POINT FOR I FINISH UNLIKE ANY OTHER HEALTHCARE PROCEDURE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, DOCTORS ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW UNDER THREAT OF MISDEMEANOR AND FELONY PENALTIES WHICH THANKFULLY HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, DEEMED UNCONSTITUTIONAL BUT NEED TO BE REPEALED THAT IF THEY DO NOT REPORT THE AGE RACE.
LOCATION, NEIGHBORHOOD STATES, CITY OF RESIDENTS, INCOME LEVEL EDUCATION, LEVEL, MARITAL STATUS TYPE OF INSURANCE, THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THE PERSON HAS HAD THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS. THE PERSONS HAD NUMBER OF MISCARRIAGES. THE PERSON THAT PERSON HAS HAD THE REASON FOR THE ABORTION, HOW THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE ABORTION, THE OUTCOME OF THE ABORTION WHERE THEY TRAVEL TO HOW THEY ACCESS TO THE STATE AN ANTI-ABORTION MATERIALS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND THIS IS ALL COMPILED IN TO REPORT THAT WAS PUBLISHED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH PUBLICLY ON JULY. FIRST OF EVERY YEAR. THIS IS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY. IT IS DATA SURVEILLANCE. IN FACT, IF YOU READ THE REPORT EVERY YEAR, THERE ARE BETWEEN 3 AND 5 PEOPLE WHO HAVE ABORTIONS THAT HAVE 9 OR MORE CHILDREN.
I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE 9 CHILDREN. THAT'S A HIGHLY IDENTIFIABLE STATISTIC. THE STATE DOES NOT NEED TO COLLECT THIS DATA DOES NOT NEED TO PUBLISH THIS DATA. AND WHAT THIS ENDS UP DOING IS PROVIDERS WHO PROVIDE ABORTION CARE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A SEPARATE SYSTEM TO REPORT THE TO THE STATE. SO INCREASE COSTS AND IT CHILLS HAS A CHILLING EFFECT ACROSS THE STATE BECAUSE IF YOU ARE UNDER THREAT A FELONY AND MISDEMEANOR PENALTIES FOR NOT REPORTING THE AGE RACE AND INCOME LEVEL OF YOUR PATIENT WHO'S HAVING AN ABORTION AND YOU WENT TO UNDERGRAD AND MEDICAL SCHOOL AND RESIDENCY THAT THOSE ARE REALLY HIGH PENALTIES FOR FAILING DATA SURVEIL YOUR PATIENTS, THE DATA THAT IS NEEDED FOR PROVIDERS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THEY COLLECT ON THEIR OWN PUBLIC HEALTH RESEARCHERS COLLECT DATA THAT THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR OWN, THROUGH THEIR NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS IS HIGHLY UNNECESSARY AND IT IS USED TO SURVEIL PREGNANT PEOPLE IN MINNESOTA AND USED AS POLITICAL FODDER. AND IT IS SOMETHING WE NO LONGER NEED TO DO LARGE SECTIONS OF DATA THAT IS REPORTED HAVE BEEN RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
AND SO THERE'S ALSO JUST MASSIVE GAPS AND HOLES IN IT. BUT THAT REPORT IS NOT SOMETHING WHEN YOU SAY YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS REPORT AND HOW WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING. 2 PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING ABORTIONS IN MINNESOTA ARE WITH THE DATA ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING ABORTIONS IN MINNESOTA. IT IS A HEALTHCARE PROCEDURE THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE BY URGING A VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT. MEMBERS. ANY COMMENTS? SENATOR, OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND I GUESS USED TO. >> RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT I JUST SOME OF THIS. BUT I WANTED FREE COME UP AND VISIT MY DISTRICT SOMETIME WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FAMILIES 89 AND AND I'VE GOT AN AREA THAT'S THAT'S REAL COMMON AND NORMAL. AND IT'S IT'S GREAT TO ENJOY IT. WHEN WE GO OUT THERE AND VISIT THAT AREA WHEN YOU PULL INTO THE PARKING LOT, THERE'S NOT MANY FANS ARE ALL 15 PASSENGER VANS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES YOUR FAMILY TO A COMMUTE. SO IT'S JUST A SIDE NOTE IT IS RARE, BUT WE'VE A NUMBER OF THOSE UP IN MY AREA AND WE APPRECIATE HIM.
ALSO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. MISS RYAN ON. PLEASE TAKE THEM CHAIR WITH ONE. NO. VICE CHAIR MAN. LEAD AT KEY. YES, SENATOR, A BLUR. SENATOR BOLDEN. SENATOR HOFFMAN. SENATOR, TO BACK. SENATOR LE SKI. YES, SENATOR MARS AND POW. THERE BEING 3. YES, VOTES IN 6, NO VOTES. THE MOTION DOES NOT PREVAIL. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT ADOPTED. >> SENATOR A BLUR. I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. JUST A 30ND THING AND THIS WILL BE MY CLOSING THOUGHT. JUST BREAKING NEWS, A MESSIAH. JUST PASSED AWAY. WHOSE MISSILE O'NEIL HE WAS THE SON OF TYLER O'NEILL, WHO WAS SHOT IN THE AMAZON PARKING LOT.
SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH MESSIAH. AND THEY JUST RECENTLY PASSED AWAY AND CHARGES ARE PENDING AGAINST THE. WHO SHOT THE AND SO HE WAS TREATED AS A PERSON. IT TOOK HIS MOM GETTING. TO GET TO THAT POINT FOR THE MOMENT. WE DECIDE THAT A PERSON OF UNBORN BABY WHEN YOU'RE SO I HAVE AN ABORTION IS A PERSON THAT MAY BE GOING AWAY. BUT I I JUST CAUTION THE COMMITTEE. EVERYBODY WATCHING THAT. I'M VERY NERVOUS. WE'RE GOING TO RUE THE DAY WHEN WE DECIDED THAT THESE UNBORN BABIES DON'T DESERVE ANY KIND OF RESPECT AS A PERSON. SO I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S ALL JUST SOMETHING THAT THAT THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.
AND OUR A CENTER MAKE MAKE FINAL THEIR THEIR MEMBER COMMENTS. >> A QUESTION. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND AND CENTER. I DO WANT YOU TO TO KNOW THAT I'M 16 AND UP TO 6, 6, TO CRIMES AGAINST AMBER CHILDREN IS NOT BEING REPEALED AND STILL REMAINS IN FULL EFFECT. AND IS THE SITUATION THAT YOU DESCRIBED A WONDERFUL COLLEAGUE AND REVELING REVEREND COMMENT AS SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE AS A FRAMEWORK CREATED BY BLACK WOMEN IN THE 90'S THAT HOLDS THAT EVERY PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE A CHILD NOT HAVE A CHILD. REESE CHILDREN MAY CHOOSE TO HAVE AND SAFE AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES AND HAVE BODILY AUTONOMY. I PROBABLY CALL MYSELF A REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE ADVOCATE. PART OF THAT WORK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE CHILDREN AND YOU WILL HOPEFULLY SEE BILLS BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE ABOUT THAT RIGHT TODAY. WE ARE HERE ABOUT THE RIGHT TO HAVE BODILY AUTONOMY. EVERY PERSON WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE FULL SPECTRUM OF REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE IS IN DANGER. AND MINNESOTA CAN BE A BEACON FOR THOSE WHO NEED THAT CARE.
WHEN A PERSON HAS DECIDED TO HAVE AN ABORTION SHOULD BE SAFE. LEGAL AVAILABLE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND FREE FROM PUNISHMENT OR JUDGMENT. AND ON TO SAY THAT AGAIN. WHEN A PERSON HAS DECIDED TO HAVE AN ABORTION, IT SHOULD BE SAFE. LEGAL, AFFORDABLE, AVAILABLE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND FREE FROM PUNISHMENT OR JUDGMENT. THE WORK TO BAN ABORTION HAS BEEN ONGOING IN THE STATE FOR 50 YEARS, WHICH IS WHY THIS BILL COLLECTS ALL OF THE WORK TO CHIP AWAY AT OUR RIGHTS AND REMOVES THEM FROM LAW. REMOVES THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS CONFORMS OUR STATE STATUTES AND REPEALS OUTDATED AND ARCHAIC LANGUAGE FROM OUR BOOKS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONVERSATION TODAY. ASK FOR YOUR YES. VOTE TO MOVE THIS ON TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO A SENATOR MORRISON IS GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO SINCE CENTER MAKE WEIGHT IS NOT ON THE COMMITTEE.
>> I DID NOT HEAR REQUESTS FOR COAT. SENATOR KING. >> MADAM CHAIR? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A ROLL. CALL THE IF HE RECORDED IN THE JOURNAL. >> SENATOR, HE HAS REQUESTED 3 WILL BE REQUIRED TO THE JOURNAL SENATOR THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE THAT SENT A FILE AS A MENTOR AND SENATE 70 AS AMENDED BE RECOMMENDED TO PASS TO BE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE AND JUDICIARY AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> THANK YOU MS IS PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE CHAIR WITH YES. VICE CHAIR MAN. LEAD. OKAY. NO. SENATOR, A BLUR. SENATOR BOLDEN, SENATOR HOFFMAN. SENATOR COOK SENATOR LE SKI. NOW, SENATOR MORRISON. YES. THEY'RE BEING SECT 6, YES VOTES AND 3, NO VOTES THE MOST AND DOES PREVAIL. GOOD BILL. >> DOES PASS. AND HIS RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY AND PUBLIC SAFETY. MEMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS RESPECTFUL DISCUSSION TODAY. I THINK WE WE HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION THROUGH DISCUSSION WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET TOMORROW. WE HAD PLANS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT. WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THOSE PLANS MOVE FORWARD. SO WE WILL NOT BE MEETING ON THURSDAY. AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. ♪ ♪.
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